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Putting together a joystick, what am I doing wrong?
johnnybleu:
I recently bought some Happ comp sticks, and had the same problems. Actuators wouldn't fit 'round the shaft. I also thought something was broken/wrong, or that I didn't understand the instructions correctly, but after reading up on joystick assembly (these were my first) I realized everything was in order, and should fit like that.
So I bashed, grinded, forced, sanded, and generally beat the living hell out of those actuators until they finally could fit. While they do go in far enough for me to attach the e-clip, they're still too tight as they wont rotate freely without moving the whole stick (and vice versa)- which I understand is a no-no.
Apparently, Happ got some new actuator for their comp joysticks, and it seems they don't fit so well. Seems this is a rather common problem with the newer sticks. I guess the solutions are to either use a drill to widen the hole, or get some "euro" style actuators from IL joysticks.
Ginsu Victim:
--- Quote ---Apparently, Happ got some new actuator for their comp joysticks, and it seems they don't fit so well. Seems this is a rather common problem with the newer sticks. I guess the solutions are to either use a drill to widen the hole, or get some "euro" style actuators from IL joysticks.
--- End quote ---
Supposedly Happ is shipping Comps with the problems fixed. When I went to Tornado Terry's, a Happ distributor, I asked if he'd show me the differences and he said that Happ sent people to his place to compare older parts and IL parts with the current parts, plus what modifications he'd done. They took the parts with them and made changes accordingly.
Also, I know RandyT has worked with Happ on correcting these issues, so anyone buying new Comps shouldn't have problems. (Assuming you buy from someone who has current stock. www.tornadoterrys.com and www.groovygamegear.com are both safe for certain)
payment_due:
The ZStop does move 'correctly'. I can push it in and everything. And I think I just found the problem. It's sort of a head-slapping issue, but not really. The shafts on the sticks are different lenghts, and that explains why the stick won't go any further. BUT, that doesn't explain why the actuator wont go in any further when using the new shafts. Here's a picture of the zstop and the shaft sizes.
ZStop: Notice where the arrow points. That lip is where the actuator stops, BUT if I use the old shafts, it (the zstop) WILL go in further, but I can't seem to get the E-Ring in for some crazyass reason.
Here is the stick length difference. The bat-tops are different sizes, but if you'll notice, the bottom of the battops is where the shaft starts, and the new ones (clean) are about a half-inch too short! And when I put them in there, the actuator/zstop pair is COMPLETELY solid. it WILL NOT move. When using the old sticks, it works like a charm. I just have the e-ring problem.
MrMojoZ:
--- Quote from: Ginsu Victim on March 26, 2009, 09:34:34 am ---
--- Quote ---Apparently, Happ got some new actuator for their comp joysticks, and it seems they don't fit so well. Seems this is a rather common problem with the newer sticks. I guess the solutions are to either use a drill to widen the hole, or get some "euro" style actuators from IL joysticks.
--- End quote ---
Supposedly Happ is shipping Comps with the problems fixed. When I went to Tornado Terry's, a Happ distributor, I asked if he'd show me the differences and he said that Happ sent people to his place to compare older parts and IL parts with the current parts, plus what modifications he'd done. They took the parts with them and made changes accordingly.
Also, I know RandyT has worked with Happ on correcting these issues, so anyone buying new Comps shouldn't have problems. (Assuming you buy from someone who has current stock. www.tornadoterrys.com and www.groovygamegear.com are both safe for certain)
--- End quote ---
Or just Buy iL sticks from the get go and you have nothing to worry about.
Ginsu Victim:
Well duh. :)
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