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deano728:
I have an Ikari Warriors machine that I'd like to Mame so that it plays heavy barrel and the other rotary joystick games. 

Also, I think I want to add a tron type joystick and spinner to play gorf, tron, etc. 

1. How can I hookup my rotary joysticks?  Is there some sort of adapter? 

2. What is the best flight stick to add that can play tron and some of the other flightstick games?

Thanks!

isucamper:
1.  Not quite sure what you are hooking up to.  Do you mean how do you hook up your SNK rotary sticks to a PC running MAME?  You need a special interface like Ultimarc's dedicated rotary interface  (http://www.ultimarc.com/rotary.html) or Groovy Game Gear's GPWiz40 (http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=76_81&products_id=235) which has rotary support.  I've messed with both of these, and they both work perfectly as advertised.  GGG's is a little more robust, able to support directional rotary games like Front Line and Tin Star.  However, MAME's digital rotary support is really weak.  Only SNK's games offer 1-click, 1-turn support, and even that's been striped out in recent versions (go back to .123 if you need it). 

2.  I used this 10 dollar PC flight stick. 

http://www.megamacs.com/item/MacSense-iFunstick-USB/view,1105661/criteria,ifunstick/

Certainly not the most posh solution, but it's only 10 bucks, looks like a TRON stick, gives you full analog support for flight stick games.  And, using MAME's -joystick_map option, you can get near perfect TRON support (as in simulating the funky restrictor plate the arcade had).  I choose this stick cause my cab is TRON themed, and I wanted good compatibility for both TRON and Discs of TRON.  I am completely happy with how it turned out.  Both games play wonderfully. 

deano728:
Yes, you were correct, I am hooking up to MAME.  Bummer that the rotary sticks don't work that well.  Thanks for the info, it is much appreciated.

As far as the flightstick.  Is there a way to mount it in a CP or do you just use the suction cups?  I was looking for a solution that I can make permanent.  If I don't, my 2 and 4 year olds will smash it.  Plus, I need something a little more rugged. 

If I went the Happ route, how do I connect those to a PC for MAME?  Is it easy to do and are there any recommendations on where to buy it for a better price than the HAPP site and which joystick works best?

isucamper:

--- Quote from: deano728 on December 27, 2008, 07:50:26 pm ---Yes, you were correct, I am hooking up to MAME.  Bummer that the rotary sticks don't work that well.  Thanks for the info, it is much appreciated.

As far as the flightstick.  Is there a way to mount it in a CP or do you just use the suction cups?  I was looking for a solution that I can make permanent.  If I don't, my 2 and 4 year olds will smash it.  Plus, I need something a little more rugged. 

If I went the Happ route, how do I connect those to a PC for MAME?  Is it easy to do and are there any recommendations on where to buy it for a better price than the HAPP site and which joystick works best?

--- End quote ---

I made a little plank for the stick to sit on. 

http://www.1up.com/do/my1Up?publicUserId=5723357

It is quite rugged and has stood up (so far) to some fairly major drunken yanking (heh) during Afterburner at some parties. 

Happ sells analog flights stick which, now that I think about it, I'm not sure how they hook  to a PC.  However, most people on here recommend the Happ Heavy Duty 8-way stick which is not analog and uses the usual microswitchs that standard joysticks use.  However, these don't work well for the light cycle levels on TRON unless you add Encryptor's restrictor plate:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=86520.0

Note that adding this restrictor makes other flight stick games control a little hard.  Unmodified, this stick is great for Discs of Tron.  Again, you are seeing why I went the analog stick route for my TRON cab.

About the rotaries.  As long as you use a version of MAME that supports the 1-click, 1-turn functionality for SNK games, it works great.  Even the games that don't support it are pretty playable.  I don't want to discourage you too much.  Just tonight I enjoyed some Ikari Warriors with my brother and he was quite impressed with the setup. 

See this thread for more on MAME and rotary games:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=76828.0

GaijinPunch:
How do the Mame settings work?  Since the original rotaries are a simple switch, what do analogue settings have to do with it?  Am I missing something?

I don't have a lot of space, so I wound up ripping the ass out of a Sigma Raijin and putting an LS-30 in.  Not the "smoothest" of sticks, but it works good enough.  I was able to 1CC Ikari in a weekend. ;)

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