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davidrfoley:

--- Quote from: Siris on May 01, 2009, 11:54:45 pm ---David,

I have requested update info on the Optigun in other threads months past and I'm sure you have read them. I had originally said that I have a Mame friendly Area 51 cab and if the Optigun works I want one! You mentioned Happ wired their setup wrong and had issues with Area 51 guns, Being that the Area 51 gun replacement optical board parts are the same as other games I just find that hard to believe. It's been long enough since you initially said that, that if it was something that isolated why wouldn't you just put it out now a ver. 1 that doesn't support those single specific guns???
Honestly, I am not sure that I understand or appreciate your business practices. Why would you have a site selling a product with vague info while claiming what would be amazing abilities, and then come to what you obviously consider possible customers and not try and give actual details with optimistic intent?
If the Optigun works just not with Area 51 guns it would sell! I REALLY was hoping that after this long you would have SOMETHING more encouraging to enlighten us with but I think after this long and the same excuse this product must not be in development and your site marketing it should be edited with more ACCURATE information or that page removed.
Again, I WANT one! make it and I will buy it but please stop posting Bi-Yearly that it's being tweeked to work with one specific game gun!
All it would take is 1 respected review to start cashing in or help in development but you refuse to take that step so why should anyone be expected to take the step to buy your product?

Just 2 cents from a consumer.

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Area 51 guns  are not the same as other guns, and the electronics to handle Area 51 guns are different than other guns.  Your assumption that the parts are the same is incorrect.  The Area 51 electronics output different signals than standard guns.  Our page specifically states compatibility with Happ and Beston guns, and makes no mention of supporting Atari guns, and therefore requires no modification or removal.   We don't put out multiple versions of our board as we add the features to the design and are currently shipping revision 3 of the board, not revision 1.     

As far is claiming that I "refuse" to do anything is again a complete misstatement.  I've helped many of our customers with the product, and we continue to sell the Optigun product to many customers, including updates to continually increase the products features and expand its functionality.

Siris:
David,

Your assumption that I'm ignorant = FAIL!

I have posted this info in the past but I feel compelled to do so again. Here is a link to Happ for the replacement Happ/Atari gun board.

http://www.happcontrols.com/amusement/optical/960066100smd.htm

You can see it says "Direct replacement for Suzo-Happ and Atari optic guns"

Here is a link to Happ for their harness adapters for similar guns with different connectors.

http://www.happcontrols.com/amusement/optical/96067000.htm

You can see that with a simple harness (NO ELECTRONICS) Area51 guns are compatible with Happ guns and vise versa.

Can you give me anything besides your word why I should buy one of these and expect it to work?
Can you not ask one of your claimed many customers to comment on their experience with the product somewhere that you can provide a link to?
Personally I would think that if you wanted to start selling these you would at least try and advertise and promote the product instead of just saying yeah we make those and they work.
Give us a reason to give you our money!

davidrfoley:

--- Quote from: Siris on May 03, 2009, 02:32:07 am ---David,

Your assumption that I'm ignorant = FAIL!

I have posted this info in the past but I feel compelled to do so again. Here is a link to Happ for the replacement Happ/Atari gun board.

http://www.happcontrols.com/amusement/optical/960066100smd.htm

You can see it says "Direct replacement for Suzo-Happ and Atari optic guns"

Here is a link to Happ for their harness adapters for similar guns with different connectors.

http://www.happcontrols.com/amusement/optical/96067000.htm

You can see that with a simple harness (NO ELECTRONICS) Area51 guns are compatible with Happ guns and vise versa.

Can you give me anything besides your word why I should buy one of these and expect it to work?
Can you not ask one of your claimed many customers to comment on their experience with the product somewhere that you can provide a link to?
Personally I would think that if you wanted to start selling these you would at least try and advertise and promote the product instead of just saying yeah we make those and they work.
Give us a reason to give you our money!


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When you swap out the Atari electronics for Happ Electronics, you are converting the gun from an Atari Gun to a Happ Gun.  The original Atari electronics generate a different signal than the Happ Guns.  The Area 51 main board supports several types of input including the Happ Gun Input.  We have made modifications to our board to do the same.  That does not mean however, that the Area 51 Guns and the Happ Guns are the same, or generate the same signal.  If you like, put an oscilloscope on the signal generated by each, and you will notice the vast difference in the signal.  It is very simple to do, and will end your continued lack of knowledge on this matter.

1UP:
Hi David, I only have a few questions:

1) Is this product available today?
2) Does it indeed work with Happ recoil guns on, say, a Wells Gardner monitor?
3) Does it work with Mame on the most common gun games and will it be update-able for more?
4) Do you take Visa and/or Paypal?  :)

Seriously.  I've got 2 of the Happ 45cal full recoil kits and holsters that have been just sitting on the shelf  in my garage for years now, since ROR3 announced their board that never materialized.  :-\  I'd be perfectly willing to be the guinea pig for this product and put an end to all this speculation real quick, just tell me that you have them in stock and that you've tested them with Mame with some kind of decent results (specific game names would be nice!)

Thanks!

davidrfoley:

--- Quote from: 1UP on May 04, 2009, 01:56:40 am ---Hi David, I only have a few questions:

1) Is this product available today?

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Revision 3 is out of stock at the moment, but we have more coming from our overseas supplier in the next couple of weeks.  We had an OEM customer take our last two manufacturing runs completely emptying our stock.


--- Quote from: 1UP on May 04, 2009, 01:56:40 am ---2) Does it indeed work with Happ recoil guns on, say, a Wells Gardner monitor?

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Yes, it has built in support for recoil outputs for both guns.  It works with any monitor, regardless of make or signal type.  It supports arcade style Molex connectors, and PC style VGA connectors.


--- Quote from: 1UP on May 04, 2009, 01:56:40 am ---3) Does it work with Mame on the most common gun games and will it be update-able for more?

--- Quote from: 1UP on May 04, 2009, 01:56:40 am ---
It works with MAME and any PC application that supports a joystick.  The gun simply appears as a standard HID joystick.  The X,Y coordinates reported are the location that the gun is pointing at on the screen, and the inputs are reported as joystick buttons.


--- Quote from: 1UP on May 04, 2009, 01:56:40 am ---4) Do you take Visa and/or Paypal?  :)

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Yes

I'll make an announcement about new inventory availability.   The product has been used by two companies that have shipped games based on it, and we have a third in development using it.
Seriously.  I've got 2 of the Happ 45cal full recoil kits and holsters that have been just sitting on the shelf  in my garage for years now, since ROR3 announced their board that never materialized.  :-\  I'd be perfectly willing to be the guinea pig for this product and put an end to all this speculation real quick, just tell me that you have them in stock and that you've tested them with Mame with some kind of decent results (specific game names would be nice!)

Thanks!

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