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Ah, now I know why Lunar Lander seemed Off
ChadTower:
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--- Quote from: u_rebelscum on November 21, 2008, 02:56:57 pm ---Or think "button" for thrust. Pushing down means more thrust.
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That's what she said.
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:applaud:
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I was so close to removing the "on" from the quoted text.
Ummon:
--- Quote from: ChadTower on November 21, 2008, 03:01:58 pm ---
--- Quote from: u_rebelscum on November 21, 2008, 02:56:57 pm ---Or think "button" for thrust. Pushing down means more thrust.
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That's what she said.
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I'm wondering about Chad, lately.
--- Quote from: vputz on November 21, 2008, 12:14:23 pm ---
--- Quote ---We're thinking thrust here, vs lift, though.
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So are the pilots.
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But wait. Forward and up are similar, just as back and down are. So essentially they are the same in this instance as well as relative to the intended direction of the craft or resistance to falling. Hence, regardless, LL is screwy. (Hahn.)
vputz:
Oh, come now--they couldn't mount the control in such a way that you could pull it up, which is the same reason Thrustmaster never made a collective control for home helicopter sims back when TM was an interesting company (I asked...) So they kept the correct action and just mounted it on the panel. I maintain my existing rotor-wing supremacy position:
1) The lunar lander can hover
2) Jets can't hover, so thinking it should work like a jet is a bad idea
3) Helicopters can hover, so thinking it should work like a helicopter may not be a bad idea,
4) In a helicopter, you pull a lever to increase thrust while landing, so
5) Lunar lander is doing it exactly right, and it's only the economic considerations that forced mounting the control on the panel instead of the floor next to a seat that prevent you from thinking in the right and proper way.
;D
Ummon:
I doubt it. I think they just thought screwy about it. It would've been easy to mount the spring at the other end. A helicopter control would've been ridiculous.
Minwah:
Sorry to drag this old topic up but I was reading it and am a little confused (I never played on the real thing...)
--- Quote from: Ummon on November 19, 2008, 04:25:16 am ---It's because the thrust control was 'backwards'. In two ways: first, in that in all my experience, at least prior to playing the game, and any that I can think of since, one pushes up or forward for thrust. Not back or down.
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Am I misunderstanding this or do you have to pull the lever towards you to thrust? That is what it sounds like...
But this video shows otherwise (see 1:30+):
Or could it be that he has modded it (?) Or is this comment relating to Mame's implementation (I can't remember exactly how it works in Mame).
Just curious as I have a spring loaded throttle lever which I was going to get rid of but thought for fun I might make a Lunar Lander panel (not sure whether for my cabinet or vectrex Moon Lander) :)
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