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monkey puzzle:

--- Quote from: (+_+) on November 02, 2008, 04:50:55 pm ---Bite the bullet and sacrifice food, clothing, beer etc and buy yourself a Samsung SyncMaster 305T 30” LCD Monitor. It beautific and my next cab will most likely have something similar. The dell 30" is also nice but you'd have to sacrifice and then some.

On a more serious note, I think a 22" wide screen is a bit small. I have a 26 inch LCD in mine and it does the job fine.



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Unfortunately both the monitors you mentioned are around £1000 (UK) and the monitor I was looking at is only £105. I know a 30" would be better, because It could display vertical games large enough to not have to rotate the monitor, but they are well out of my price range.

Incidently, do you rotate your monitor? You say that a 22" is a bit small, but when rotated, it will display vertical games larger than a 26" that isn't rotated. I've heard a lot of people say that a 19" CRT monitor is large enough, so I figure that a 22" LCD has a much larger viewable area and will be plenty big enough for me (so long as it can display the vertical games as mentioned).

nox771:

--- Quote ---I've heard a lot of people say that a 19" CRT monitor is large enough, so I figure that a 22" LCD has a much larger viewable area and will be plenty big enough for me (so long as it can display the vertical games as mentioned).
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The problem there is the aspect ratio.  CRTs are 4:3 and most cheap LCDs are going to be widescreen, something like 16:10 is typical.  So for a 22" on a 16:10 aspect a bit of math will get you approximate dimensions:
width = 22*cos(atan(10/16)) =  18.65
height = 22*sin(atan(10/16)) = 11.66

18.65 wide x 11.66 tall

Now that I look at it this way the vertical on the 28" is smaller than I thought too, just under 15":
width = 28*cos(atan(10/16)) =  23.74
height = 28*sin(atan(10/16)) = 14.84

If you are rotating the screen you can get by with a much smaller widescreen panel.  Of course the cab design means the upper part must be designed to accommodate both the larger height and width (since when it's rotated it will be tall).

You might be able to get by with a 21" LCD in 4:3 format.  It's a better fit since I think most games were originally on CRTs of that aspect (not sure if that's true though).  Generally I think they are becoming harder to find since people prefer widescreens for PCs, and usually they are spendy (PVA or IPS panels).

Blanka:
In 4:3 the best option is the Samsung 214T.
This one is an S-PVA panel, and has a pivot foot already. Which means it has decent viewing angle when mount vertical (which you won't have with TN, as vertical TN's suck big time).
Most of the time you can use a pivot-mech in the foot directly for cab mounting, which is handy.

The suggested Samsung 30 inch is no option IMO. It is not only too wide to fit most casings, as it is 2560x1600, it needs very specific videocards, and upscaling images may be far worse in speed than on 1920x1200 screens. Better get a 27 inch 1920x1200 screen. BTW, pivotting a 21 inch 4:3 gives exactly the same screen estate as pivotting a 24 inch 16:10. You can have more options in the 24 inch market. But then again, never go for TN when pivotting (but that's probably why TN screens never have pivot built in)

@nox: funny you use sin and cos for calculating! I do everything with Pythagoras (those cheap calculators have + - * / only).

Blanka:

--- Quote from: nox771 on November 03, 2008, 08:32:26 pm ---Generally I think they are becoming harder to find since people prefer widescreens for PCs
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Well, I guess if that is researched, it might be very not so. It's like with cars. All new cars have ugly mirrors because people don't like the side blinking lights to be on the side panel directly, so lets stick them in the mirrors (yeah right!) or that we get separate ugly rear reflectors because people don't like the back-lights to be red but want them to be clear transparant (yeah right).
Its just sheep-behaviour in production-land. They all look at BMW, Volvo and Apple. Who got the first wide-screen LCD? What was it meant for? (Final Cut Pro editing). Who made USB popular? Why is Windows 7 getting a Dock?
Because of that, we consumerist sheep are stretching all those 4:3 standard def TV-broadcasts with strange stretching algorithms for almost 10 years now, and looking at skewed egg-head faces is totally corrected in our brains to look normal now.

So please make that 27 inch square 2048x2048 medical screens available to regular consumers as soon as possible. I want a square screen on my desk!  :afro:

Light at the end of the tunnel: Maybe OLED screens can be cut with scissors to any shape you like.

nox771:

--- Quote ---Which means it has decent viewing angle when mount vertical (which you won't have with TN, as vertical TN's suck big time).
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You know that's an excellent point.  I never considered it but your right, when rotated the viewing angle will be awful.


--- Quote ---But then again, never go for TN when pivotting (but that's probably why TN screens never have pivot built in)
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Hah, that's probably true!  Never thought of that either.  I always thought TN panels never shipped with a pivot mount because they were low cost and the manufacturers were being cheap.  But not using a pivot so people don't complain about the lousy viewing angle makes more sense.


--- Quote ---funny you use sin and cos for calculating! I do everything with Pythagoras (those cheap calculators have + - * / only).
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Well, knowing only the aspect and the diagonal it seemed easier to me.  Hmm, using pythagorean:
22^2 = height^2 + (16/10)^2*height^2
height = sqrt((22^2)/(1+1.6^2)) = 11.66
Er, I had to think about that one for a while.  Hopefully your calc has a sqrt key  ;D

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