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RayB:

studmuff:

--- Quote from: FrizzleFried on December 11, 2008, 04:33:53 pm ---The problem with Family Guy from my opinion is that the damn thing pretty much played itself.  What i mean is that it is SUPER EASY.  I've played a grand total of 1 game on a Family Guy...at the airport...I put my quarters in and played for 15 minutes...my flight was called so I walked away from the game...


--- End quote ---

I agree with you that Family Guy is Easy, but Stern has to put some easy games out there or no one will touch them after one play. 

I have never played it but the Stern Indiana Jones looks terrible.  The ark 8-ball multiball sounds cool but there aren't a lot of shots to shoot for in the game.  Seems like it would get old pretty quick.

Xiaou2:

--- Quote ---Stern has to put some easy games out there or no one will touch them
--- End quote ---

  That simply is not true.

 Something difficult challenges people, and they wish to put money in further
to try to get somewhere with it.

 One big reasons that Arcades Died,  was because they Dumbed down
games to the point of Idiocy level.   Cars couldnt crash...etc.    People play once,
get board as hell... and never play again... as there is No satisfaction gained at all.

 
 The people who give up so easily on a challenge.. are the ones who arnt going
to spend much playing games in the first place.

 
 As a young kid in the 80s arcades... I was surrounded by challenging games.  I got
Crushed by most games in seconds.  Yet, I still enjoyed them.   Over many plays, I got
a little better.  As I got years older... I got even better and lasted much much longer.
Still challenged by the games,  and still enjoying the challenge.

 Once games became easy mindless  'Movies',  I stopped playing... and so did most
others.


 If Stern was aiming at getting children into pinball... they would have to make the
pins shorter and change the way the game plays.  A slower moving game like the
old EM pins.. with either a set gameplay time and or a change in flipper distances.
However.. if they did this.. it would alienate teen and adult players.

 
 Also,  Family Guy is NOT a Kid theme.  Making that game easy - centered on
capturing childrens interest is in very poor taste.

 The only reason I watched that show at all.. was if NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING,
was on TV that night.  And even then... I would often turn it off.  The show isnt very
good. Its like a combination of cynical negativity and kiddie self help. Its pathetic,
and unethical in that it tries to play to younger kids.

 
 Pinball was fine the way it was.  The failure was an issue of Durability.  Too
much maintenance needed: Broken assemblies = non functional gameplay =
no more repeat business. 

koolmoecraig:
Well putting easy games out there is EXACTLY what Stern was aiming for.   He hit the target for sure.

Go read Steve Ritchies rant on the newgroups.

RayB:
I tend to believe the complaints leveled here... (Too easy, All the features getting shown off too soon, mish mash of sound bites in FG...).

A game in any form is best balanced to be easy to pick up, but challenging to get further in. And you need rewards for players to continue working towards. I know if I feel I've "seen everything" in just a couple plays, well the incentive to keep playing is much lower. ALL that's left is striving for higher score.

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