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Stern layoffs
ChadTower:
--- Quote from: pinballjim on December 09, 2008, 10:59:16 am ---You won't see ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- out of NuCore. Maybe a rule tweak or two, but nothing new. The Bally-35 and old Stern code has been busted wide open for years and nobody has done ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- with that.
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Those older platforms are embedded systems with limited resources. That's a whole lot different than an emulator running on a PC. I don't know the CPU for the Pin2k boardsets but so long as there are compilers out there this is a whole lot wider than the old games. You're probably right to a certain extent that not many people are going to do much with it but NuCore already has functionality that Pin2k does not. Plus the NuCore guys are talking about an API - that would be half the battle right there for homebrew - enough I'll at least poke through it myself eventually.
shardian:
I agree that there is no excuse for Stern not switching from DMD to LCD.
RayB:
--- Quote from: pinballjim on December 09, 2008, 10:59:16 am ---LCDs would have been great, but Gary hired on all the old guard and told them to make Addam's Family #2 and none of them were interested in doing anything new.
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I wouldn't blame the designers. A company has to have a budget for experimenting on stuff that might not have a return on that investment. If Stern allocated Zero to that (either by choice or by economic forces), then those guys won't be able to experiment (unless they do it on their own time and dollars). The same thing happens in the video game industry. All the creative people keep whining about wanting to make new types of games, but upper management wants what's is already proven to sell.
Xiaou2:
--- Quote from: pinballjim on December 08, 2008, 11:40:27 am ---There's going to be a lot of finger pointing over the next few months. I think Gary was dealing with economic realities that the designers/coders/general public weren't privy to.
Steve didn't help matters any with World Poker Tour, either. Worst game that company ever produced, bar none.
I got a laugh over 700 sales of Family Guy! After 'Rare Hero' has been whoring his involvement in that game for 2 years on a daily basis on RGP. Must have been a much needed slap in the face for him, though I'm sure it's now a "Cactus Canyon" level collectible in his mind.
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---smurf-poo---. Stern was a Moron who thought he knew better than the experts.
He's totally in Love with himself, and his Ego is the size of his factory.
Its also clear that he does not care about the people who love and play pinball.
He only cares about dollars and ego.
As for WPT, WHat the Hell do you expect? The very concept of a game centered
around Poker doesnt stand much chance at being anything but Crap.
Most people know that they are only good at some things... and smartly stay
within that realm. For example... I am a decent artist... but, I couldnt play
anything worthwhile on a musical instrument... so wouldnt dare to tell
a Top musician how to compose a song!
Stern thought he could tell the Musicians what to play... and then tell them to take criticisms from every other self appointed expert out on the factory floor.
Imagine telling Eddy Van Halan that he has to make an Album for World Poker...
and then, Imagine the look on his face when you tell him that every employee
is going to come and tell him how to make those tracks better!
Then, Give Eddy a Shoddy guitar, and poor quality recording equipment,
an insanely low budget for equipment and studio time... and almost no time to
get the stuff made at all...
And then when Eddys fans pipe up... and say how crappy things are...
The boss tells Eddy to shut his piehole and "F" the fans. They are selling
records to the music shops... NOT the fans!
You really think Eddy will be Psyched to make a WPT themed record?! You
think that enthusiasm will be enough to get him to make the best WPT
music ever?! Get real. People with true talent arnt going to waste it on
WPT crap! If they stick around.. its only cause they are working for an easy paycheck..
much like older actors who do TV ads & infomercials. I dont blame them one
bit.
If they were given a good budget, a great choice of theme.. and ability to
produce a machine that was of quality... and THEN made a flop... THEN I would
blame them. Until that time... (which will Never come), the blame is All on
Stern himself.
shardian:
--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on December 11, 2008, 08:28:49 am ---
As for WPT, WHat the Hell do you expect? The very concept of a game centered
around Poker doesnt stand much chance at being anything but Crap.
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Do you even realize how many poker based pins have been made? It is a proven winner theme in pinball. It just didn't translate well to the DMD era.
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