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Visitor Q:
Tim,

Apache looks like it mounts pretty high up, do you like that? Like it does not look to be as low profile as the TT.

Tim N.:
You can adjust it... I actually like it where it is at (I adjusted it a little higher).... I have a bit larger hand, so my fingers are very comfortable getting underneath the knob without rubbing against the CP... It is versatile in it's mounts as it is adjustable to accomodate different wood thickness and/or metal thickness. It does come with all the hardware for both styles of mounting too..... I imagine the GGG model has that mounting plate to keep the height relatively similar regardless of material as well.... It is a different mounting structure all together...(just basing this on Randy's pics /comments).. I believe if you have a metal CP, for the GGG, you would remove the mounting plate and mount directly through the metal panel as the metal panel would then become your mounting plate... Again two different styles all together achieving the same result (in relative terms)....

CheffoJeffo:

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--- Quote from: isucamper on October 08, 2008, 08:17:44 am ---Also, I understand why the regulars on this board might get annoyed when someone asks a question on the main page that has already been asked a million times... but way too often the initial response to any question on here is a snarky reply linking the search function.  Even when (such is the case with this thread) the OP is asking a unique question.  I've kept my eye on the spinner threads, and I know that there's never been an in-depth comparision between the two push/pull spinners on the market, so this thread could definitely offer something new to the database.
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I say ask what you need.  I have tried to use the search function a lot to answerer questions and find it usefulness limited.  From my experience it comes up with about 80% non relevant stuff for your search.  People always say read the WIKI.  Well that only helps if it is up to date.  When you looking at something that is 3 or 4 years old I am suspect of its usefulness.  This is especially true of software that may have 3 or 4 newer versions than what is being talked about in the WIKI.   

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All of that is fair enough.

Nobody says don't ask questions, only that people do some research first. There is a ton of information here and, while not all of it will always be relevant to your specific question, some of it is. Some of the info will be out of date.

If you find info in the wiki that is out of date, then either update it (that's what it is there for) or at the very least post to that effect on the wiki board so that somebody else can update it. It's disconcerting that folks expect others to take time out to answer their questions, but don't take the time to update the wiki or post reviews once they install the item that they are asking about (not pointing any fingers, just making a general observation).

For my part, if I see the same question asked for the eleventieth time and don't feel like answering, I usually skip the thread. If I feel like answering, I do. I presume others do the same thing. We were all noobs once, so we do understand that it can be overwhelming and confusing. But, it does get frustrating to see the same questions asked again and again by people who failed to do even a basic search. The continual "What is the best 4-Way" and "Trackball works in Windows, but not in MAME" threads grate on people, as do the folks who bump their own threads every 2 hours because people haven't answered their question yet.

As for the search, it isn't perfect, but it isn't that bad and there is always Google, just add site:arcadecontrols.com to your search.

 :cheers:

Visitor Q:

--- Quote from: Tim N. on October 08, 2008, 12:41:48 pm ---You can adjust it... I actually like it where it is at (I adjusted it a little higher).... I have a bit larger hand, so my fingers are very comfortable getting underneath the knob without rubbing against the CP... It is versatile in it's mounts as it is adjustable to accomodate different wood thickness and/or metal thickness. It does come with all the hardware for both styles of mounting too..... I imagine the GGG model has that mounting plate to keep the height relatively similar regardless of material as well.... It is a different mounting structure all together...(just basing this on Randy's pics /comments).. I believe if you have a metal CP, for the GGG, you would remove the mounting plate and mount directly through the metal panel as the metal panel would then become your mounting plate... Again two different styles all together achieving the same result (in relative terms)....

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Ahhhh yes, you are right. I do recall seeing that in the review.

Thanks.

RandyT:

I'll try to address as much of this as I can without getting too wordy.  Not trying to be curt, just no time for a lot of detail at the moment.

Anyone who thinks that resolution in a spinner doesn't matter, either A) has never compared the two side-by-side,  B) never played a game where it matters, C) has a "horse in the race" or D) is not very discriminating about their gameplay.   That's all I'll say on that topic, as it has been hashed out plenty of times before this.

When it comes to build quality, bigger / heavier doesn't necessarily mean "better".

Anyone who wants a DOT spinner knob just needs to ask.  They will get one at the same price as the TokenTop.  I'm happy to offer them separately.

The TTHL mounts on metal the same as wood, but you can remove the plate if you prefer to do it that way. 

The knob on the TTHL has about 1/4" of adjustment so you can raise or lower it to feel better for you if the default position isn't to your liking.

The TTHL does not "scratch" against the switch contacts when turning.  It feels the same pushed, pulled or static.

Something that all should consider when soliciting opinions or looking at 3rd party reviews is that the individual doing the reviews may or may not have had access to other devices in order to compare them, and may have a totally different set of criterion used to judge them than you might.  Only one opinion really counts in cases like these, and that is yours.

:)

RandyT

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