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Spaced Ace:
You know what, I got to chime in here.  Andy & Randy, c'mon guys, we're on the same team here.  There arent enough of us, customers, arcade lovers or whatever you want to call "us", here or in the UK to fight over this stuff. 

Aparently there are a few trouble makers here who I have seen on 3 seperate threads just trying to start some crap and keep it going. 

Look at it like this, most of us have a go to guy, if that guy doesnt have something we need, we go to the other guy, its simple really.  I like Andy and I like Randy, as in a profesional business aspect. 

Why dont you two settle down a little and let Sony, Nintendo & Microsoft go at it.  There are only a hand full of "us" who buy both of your products, that will never change.  Just calm yourselves and remember, we are in this hobby together.  Yes, for you two it is your bread and butter, but "WE" help pay your bills, no need to trash each other in public. 

Most of us come to these forums for fun.  Its starting to be less fun.

David Foley, I dont know what you done to deserve some of the things said about you bro, but just let it roll off your back man.  It's not worth getting all upset over something someone said in a forum...

TPB, what's your angle?  Do we really need another thread to trash someone else...?  I mean really?

Chris:

--- Quote from: GinsuVictim on July 23, 2008, 11:43:20 pm ---
--- Quote ---It is customary in Internet forum land that when you find a post that you completely agree with, you just quote it.

--- End quote ---

Actually that's just a really bad habit some people have. It's not proper netiquette.

--- End quote ---
I always wondered why people did that... I always just figured they accidentally hit "submit" too early or something.

TPB:

Spaced Ace,

I have no angle whatsoever on David Foley. 

Frizzle had raised David's name in this thread.  I don't think Frizzle expected it to turn into a discussion, that only arose when David picked up Frizzle's post on his "Google Alerts" monitor, and chimed into this thread with his own responses.

Personally, I had no knowledge of David.

Given a discussion had developed about David in this thread, the question begged to be asked, what is this all about ?

The new thread was at David's suggestion ... and was solely to query about the background to this discussion.  I noticed you've made THREE posts (and counting) of your own in that new thread.  Evidently it's a topic in which you're keen to express your opinion.    ::)

Surely you don't believe that you've got the right to discuss a certain topic, but no-one else does ?  That would be a tad hypocritical.


[ EDIT - footnote added ... ]

I believe David's explanation (of his position) sounds reasonable, and have said as such in the new thread.

Spaced Ace, if you wish to discuss David further, please stick to the new thread for that purpose ... that's why it was created, and at David's suggestion no less ... and you've obviously warmed to that new thread anyway, with three posts in it already.  So let's put this thread to rest, or at least have no more discussion about David within it.

TPB:

Spaced Ace,

Those who have defended Andy's reputation in this thread, have stood up to be counted.  That hardly makes them "trouble makers".  It makes them principled people who have the conviction, and guts, to stand up for what they believe in.

Similarly for those who supported Randy's position ... while I haven't supported Randy's position in this thread (as much as I admire him as a vendor), at least those who have supported his position, have also had the guts to voice their opinion.

What's your position on Andy ?  Do you think he's flogging a knock-off copied product in the SpinTrak ?  Do you have the guts to stand up and be counted with your own opinion ?

Or would you rather hide behind wishy washy, meaningless "motherhood" statements, like "let's all be friends, and sing songs around the campfire together".  And then meekly brand those who "do" have the guts to voice their opinion as "trouble makers" ?

An accusation was leveled at Andy's business practices in this thread.  Those with principle were responding to that accusation.

[ Having said that, perhaps some took their conviction too far, with proclamations of "boycotting" a business - that's uncalled for, in my books. ]


The discussion is now done and dusted, and it's time to put this thread to rest.

Of course everyone wants harmony between the vendors.  That's in everyone's interests.  Ultimarc and GGG both make fine products, and are invaluable vendors in this hobby.

BASS!:

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