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AndyWarne:
Thanks for the alert, forgot to add the red to the store. Have now done so.

Andy

Dazz:
Hmmm, anyone know if my Oscar MAME engraved tops fit this?

RandyT:

--- Quote from: AndyWarne on July 21, 2008, 07:10:44 am ---I do not consider adopting new technology "sleazy" just because another supplier is also using this technology. The KeyWiz uses the same chip as the I-PAC, no problem with that.

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Of course you don't.  You are the one who has engaged in blatant pilfery of my design.  The TT2 design is a 100% new spinner design, and comparing copying it virtually verbatim, to the use of a commonly available  blank microcontroller used by thousands of manufacturers, and which does not contain the tiniest segment of your code is just a dishonest representation of the situation.  Unless you now want folks to believe that you have designed the physical chip.

And those "new surface mount encoder" packages have been around for many months before SlikStik Christian started pushing your "joint effort" Spintrak.  Even if you just found them and started using them, they work just as well attached to a mounting plate like the one in your design. There is no justification you can use for taking mine as your own, regardless of what you want folks to believe.


--- Quote ---On the subject of USB 2.0 vs 1.1.
Using USB 1.1 gives a maximum data packet of 7 bits in each direction (8 bits total) ie 127 increments. The "poll rate" unless it is artificially increased is approx 7ms.

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Any setting you make on a system that is not left in it's default state is an "artificial increase".  Change one setting on an XP system and things are no longer the case as you have just described them.  A 98SE system doesn't even require that for your spiel to cease holding water.  Installing a driver that does the exact same thing is no significant difference.  Hundreds of good folks have praised the TT2, with it's current interface, for it's unmatched performance.  This would not be so, were there any reason whatsoever to switch to a 2.0 interface. 

Doing so just requires that you give up PS/2 compatibility, and requires you to buy a new USB hub / interface card if yours isn't 2.0 compatible.

RandyT

RoomTenONine:
Just some thoughts from someone who is on the cusp of ordering an encoder, spinner and other parts for a new CP.

Respectively to those involved, the comments regarding stealing design ideas come off as petty bickering.  I'm not saying they are or are not warranted as I don't have the full details (nor do I really care), but I don't see how this can be considered design theft (in claims from both parties).  Being first to market with a new design idea that becomes popular will be mirrored...unless of course you go get the appropriate patent.  By your rationale every car manufacturer making V6 engines today and in the past are pilfering from Lancia and their original V6 design.  Yes, other engines had existed before and even inline 6 cyls, but the V6 was a milestone in design...and EVERYONE except the exotics use them.  The same can be said for joystik designs.  I don't know who made the fist 8-way microswitch stik or leaf switch, but obviously everyone making current controls copies those designs.

From what I've read, both companies here offer great products and customer support.  I'd much rather see you two one-up each other in products and customer support than holler about who's idea it was.

RandyT:

--- Quote from: RoomTenONine on July 21, 2008, 12:04:10 pm ---...unless of course you go get the appropriate patent. 

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This process was actually started some time ago.  Ergo, this issue.

I'm sorry you see this as something petty.  It's hard to understand as an outsider.  But consider how you might feel if you worked months on a project for your company that meant a fat raise and a boost in the quality of living for your family, and another individual in your office photocopied and submitted it, thereby claiming the fruits of your labor?  Is that also a case of "that's the way the cookie crumbles"?  How is that so different?

RandyT

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