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SavannahLion:
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--- Quote from: Green Giant on June 05, 2008, 09:17:31 am ---Well, technically the roms are unlicensed, but to have them on the board themselves doesn't really break any laws except for recent games. Use of old games that aren't readily available from the manufacturer is allowed in the US now.
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This could not possibly be more wrong. If you are basing this on the DMCA and various rulings on it recently, you have misunderstood it.
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I haven't even heard of any recent DMCA (or other) rulings that could be remotely mistaken for that. Any idea which rulings GG might have been talking about?
RayB:
--- Quote from: SavannahLion on June 06, 2008, 11:01:39 am ---I haven't even heard of any recent DMCA (or other) rulings that could be remotely mistaken for that. Any idea which rulings GG might have been talking about?
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I feel fairly confident he's misinterpreting the DMCA exceptions for circumventing and reverse-engineering locks, encryptions and other such measures in "obsolete" software for the purposes of archiving and/or continued legitimate use of the software.
Example: 3D Studio 4 used a hardware dongle to function. Say you bought this software back in 1993 and now this dongle no longer worked or was lost (and of course it is no longer available from its original manufacturer) you would be within your rights, as a legitimate owner of 3D Studio 4, to hack the software such as to bypass the need for the dongle.
Note that in that example, you purchased the software. It is yours. The exemption applies to you. It does not apply to your friend to whom you wish to just give a copy of the software to.
The DMCA normally makes such hacking completely illegal (it's part of why here in Canada we are fighting very hard against a DMCA style copyright bill that big American corporations and American government are pushing us to adopt. The DMCA over-reaches beyond simple "copy" "rights".)
IANAL
pointdablame:
--- Quote from: Green Giant on June 05, 2008, 09:17:31 am ---Well, technically the roms are unlicensed, but to have them on the board themselves doesn't really break any laws except for recent games. Use of old games that aren't readily available from the manufacturer is allowed in the US now.
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I'll have a double of whatever this guy is having please.....
Singapura:
--- Quote from: pointdablame on June 07, 2008, 12:21:14 am ---
--- Quote from: Green Giant on June 05, 2008, 09:17:31 am ---Well, technically the roms are unlicensed, but to have them on the board themselves doesn't really break any laws except for recent games. Use of old games that aren't readily available from the manufacturer is allowed in the US now.
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I'll have a double of whatever this guy is having please.....
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Make that a triple. If a rom isn't available from the manufacturer, the license remains valid until it expires. Even then, certain aspects of the rom can be licensed in other ways. Take for instance Donkey Kong. Even if the original DK rom isn't made any more, the usage of the DK characters is still protected and Nintendo is making loads of money from them.
SavannahLion:
--- Quote from: RayB on June 06, 2008, 12:49:26 pm ---
--- Quote from: SavannahLion on June 06, 2008, 11:01:39 am ---I haven't even heard of any recent DMCA (or other) rulings that could be remotely mistaken for that. Any idea which rulings GG might have been talking about?
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I feel fairly confident he's misinterpreting the DMCA exceptions for circumventing and reverse-engineering locks, encryptions and other such measures in "obsolete" software for the purposes of archiving and/or continued legitimate use of the software.
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Thank you. Took me a while to locate the sections in question.
--- Quote from: Singapura on June 07, 2008, 12:46:38 am ---Make that a triple. If a rom isn't available from the manufacturer, the license remains valid until it expires. Even then, certain aspects of the rom can be licensed in other ways. Take for instance Donkey Kong. Even if the original DK rom isn't made any more, the usage of the DK characters is still protected and Nintendo is making loads of money from them.
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Especially if the DK characters are protected under that ---fouled up beyond all recognition--- up Mickey Mouse.Protection Act. Nintendo can sit on those characters until most of us are long dead.
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