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Jdurg:
--- Quote from: paigeoliver on May 04, 2008, 02:16:39 pm ---Dualcore isn't going to do much for mame. Overclocking for Mame is lunacy. 95 percent of the games you want to play ran full speed in mame YEARS ago on a 500 mhz processor.
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And they played full of bugs, graphics glitches, sound glitches, etc. I don't know about you, but I'm not going to play a bug filled piece of ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- version of an arcade game that I loved. I certainly can tell the difference between the older, crappier emulation and the newer, more acurate emulation. You really need to stop calling people "lunatics" for using powerful systems to play a vastly more accurate emulation of games just because you don't want to spend the money doing it.
BTW, the DualCore CPUs do a great deal better in MAME than the equivalent speed P4 chips. This isn't because of the dual cores, but more because of the greater architecture of the DualCore CPUs compared to the laughable architecture of the P4 processors.
So if you want faster, but less accurate emuation of games in MAME then you can go with an older version. If you want more accurate emulation, albeit at a somewhat slower speed, then you'll need the newer version. If you can't tell the difference in emulation between the older and the newer, then by all means go with the old one as it does run faster than newer iterations. Just don't let paige's very vocal opinions prevent you from making a decision on your own. :cheers:
CheffoJeffo:
--- Quote from: Jdurg on May 04, 2008, 04:47:08 pm ---
--- Quote from: paigeoliver on May 04, 2008, 02:16:39 pm ---Dualcore isn't going to do much for mame. Overclocking for Mame is lunacy. 95 percent of the games you want to play ran full speed in mame YEARS ago on a 500 mhz processor.
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So if you want faster, but less accurate emuation of games in MAME then you can go with an older version. If you want more accurate emulation, albeit at a somewhat slower speed, then you'll need the newer version. If you can't tell the difference in emulation between the older and the newer, then by all means go with the old one as it does run faster than newer iterations. Just don't let paige's very vocal opinions prevent you from making a decision on your own. :cheers:
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While I'm not exactly a Paige fanboy, I encourage folks not to disregard what he says out of hand since he has build more MAME cabs than anybody else here, except for Zakk (and, maybe, Knievel). His cabs have not been the prettiest by a long shot, but they are more than many here have completed.
FWIW, *I* am happy with the version of MAME that I am running (.90) for emulating the games that I want to play (and do not have dedicated cabinets for).
As for the "accuracy of emulation", I would leave such assessments to those who have actually owned the original machines and run them side-by-side with their MAME boxes. It would be a total mistake to believe that a dual-core system is require to accurately emulate Galaga, for example, or to listen to anybody who isn't comparing apples to apples.
paigeoliver:
Most of the "accuracy" of emulation bits are things that the end user never sees. In addition to having made a TON of mame machines I have also owned a few hundred original machines and boards and I could never spot any actual differences between the real thing and Mame .55 in the games that were stated to be properly working in that version.
Most of the accuracy of emulation bits are either things you just can't see, sounds that are just a wee bit different, or tiny differences in game speed that you have to leave the real thing running against a mame for a while in order to be able to spot. There are a few exceptions here and there (Robotron not slowing down when there is a lot of onscreen activity is a notable exception present in old mame versions that I believe was fixed in new ones).
I am sure the current version is more "accurate" but .55 is not a bug filled crapfest either. All the accuracy in the world is worthless the minute your machine has to skip frames, because THAT is far worse than all that "inaccurate" stuff that you can't see.
And to be exact I said OVERCLOCKING to run mame is lunacy. Buying a $600 PC to run Mame on a 15" PC monitor is lunacy. There are benefits to be had with a better PC in Mame, but the PC is the LEAST important part of the cabinet, controls, monitor, encoder, computer mix.
A lot of people come into Mame from a PC gaming background and thus assume hot hardware is what they need and the best way to go and end up sticking brand new computers into cabinets using $8 used joysticks and cast off PC monitors that are way too small for the cabinet.
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