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Joy and button alignment and of other control panel questions
Stub:
The hexagons are markers for the art to line up with.
u_rebelscum:
1. Depends on which joysticks you get, which TB, and how you mount them. I'll have to measure my CPs, but I think a few of my joysticks (perfect360s & supers with trigger-finger sticks hacked in, all routed bottom mounted) need more space under the CP than my TBs (mounting plates, no plexi).
3. High lip or high ball are better with the plexi, since the lips are 3/16" and 1/8" tall, respectively (vs the old 1/16"). I prefer the high lip, but others here love the high ball. Most current models actually are highlip/highrim, and it's hard to find the "normal" 1/16" lip now a days.
4. Depends how you hit the ball. It comes off too often (once a game is too much IMO) for me, but others here don't seem to have my problem. I play with my hand a little above the CP and "roll" it over the ball; the high ball sides are too vertical so I knock the ball off the rollers.
5. There is no "standard", rather a few different designs. The ones already posted are good, IMO, even though I prefer straights.
Mr Kray:
Stub - Your layout looks great, I can see your cabinet theme is in line with your avatar and it's going to look awesome when it's finished. :notworthy:
Aesthetics aside, just wondering why you have buttons 7 and 8 so far away from the rest, although it looks great from an artistic point but it seems they wouldn't be very easy to use, have you made a test panel to see how easy it is?
Karoq - I think your layout is more in-line with what I had previously envisioned, I was going for the six button layout with the seventh sticking out on the right like you have.
I'm leaning towards a mash of both your designs, the button layout of Karoq's but with the joystick more vertically centred as in Stub's layout.
--- Quote from: u_rebelscum on May 08, 2008, 07:40:54 pm ---1. Depends on which joysticks you get, which TB, and how you mount them. I'll have to measure my CPs, but I think a few of my joysticks (perfect360s & supers with trigger-finger sticks hacked in, all routed bottom mounted) need more space under the CP than my TBs (mounting plates, no plexi).
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Thanks u_rebelscum, I should have posed the question better, I meant to ask if there was any reason to have the control panel box deeper than is required to allow the joysticks/trackball to work.
I have SNK rotaries and wico leaf switch joysticks which I'll be bottom mounting so I think I'll just make the cp box deep enough for everything to work and that's it.
--- Quote ---3. High lip or high ball are better with the plexi, since the lips are 3/16" and 1/8" tall, respectively (vs the old 1/16"). I prefer the high lip, but others here love the high ball. Most current models actually are highlip/highrim, and it's hard to find the "normal" 1/16" lip now a days.
4. Depends how you hit the ball. It comes off too often (once a game is too much IMO) for me, but others here don't seem to have my problem. I play with my hand a little above the CP and "roll" it over the ball; the high ball sides are too vertical so I knock the ball off the rollers.
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Looks like I'll be going for a highlip rather than highball then, I haven't used an arcade trackball in years and it seems the safer bet.
Thanks for all your help guys, most appreciated! :cheers:
Stub:
Thanks, but you can credit pixlehugger for the logo. My attempts were much less classy.
As for the 7 and 8 buttons, I have been moving them closer and closer each revision, but I have this mocked up right now testing on games, and I like it. It is positioned as a thumb button.
I settled on this layout after a bit of thinking. It accommodates most of what I am looking to play. I play eighties classics which have one or two buttons, Smash Tv, MK with the 5 button X, SF and Marvel 6 button fighters, and I am emulating original PlayStation ( and it works oddly well with that button layout ). I cant think of any 4 button in a row games I care to play, but I can still play them with either the left or right four.
Actually button 7 works great for a thumb button but I an using it as the main button for the old button mashing type games with a single button because there is more room to smash it. :)
u_rebelscum:
--- Quote from: Mr Kray on May 08, 2008, 08:45:43 pm ---I meant to ask if there was any reason to have the control panel box deeper than is required to allow the joysticks/trackball to work.
I have SNK rotaries and wico leaf switch joysticks which I'll be bottom mounting so I think I'll just make the cp box deep enough for everything to work and that's it.
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Okay, remember the joystick actuators move (especially that rotary unit on the bottom of the ls-30s). I had add some space for my first CP with the trigger finger button joystick hack, as I didn't leave enough space for the wires to the buttons on the stick to come out the bottom of the hacked hollow stick. It would have been barely enough if the stick didn't move, but of course it did and rubbed the wires on the bottom of the CP.
The bottom of the TB doesn't move, but you might think about leaving enough space under to bottom light the TB. :dunno
(didn't measure my CPs last night, soory. :-\)
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