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Anyone Build there own VPMAME pinball machine?
Fozzy The Bear:
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--- Quote from: Demon-Seed on February 14, 2008, 11:26:31 pm ---Hey
Yea that project looks interesting....keep up the good work...keep us posted. I am wondering how one can use the 2 screens..I would like to have the top screen change the marquee and house the scores....kinda like ultrapin does...
also I am not familiar with this nudging thing?? any one advise how it works/?
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its the equivalent of giving the pinball table a "nudge" to bump the ball off course, or onto a different course. Visual pinball and pinmame give you three possible nudges equivalent to bumping the left side, right side or front of the pinball table. As in a real machine, if you nudge to often the machine goes into "TILT" and you forfiet the game.
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Some real tables also include a ball save feature, where they pop up a peg for a couple of seconds to prevent the ball going out of play when you push the nudge buttons. So you need nudge buttons on the panel to emulate that as well.
Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)
Tim N.:
Yep, the hardest thing about building this was playing every table and figuring out exactly which buttons I need. Since so many tables have different buttons, I tried to make a universal layout to accomodate all the different tables. The updated pictures (when I post them) will show that. I have two flipper buttons on each side, this was done mainly for the Shadow, but I also use the extra button on the side for games like you mentioned that have up-posts like Champion Pub. I also have the factory Williams coin door buttons wired and working correctly for all game adjustments ,volume, etc. just like they were originally designed. I have a large Williams Ball launch button, a Data East Start Button, and a Williams extra ball button on the front. On the front of the coin door, I have three small Stern buttons that I use for admin functions. They reside wherethe dollar bill acceptor plate is. One is power for the computer, the second is Escape/Exit, and the third is coin. Not all games utilize free play, so the coin button is needed. I also have the coin acceptor wired to work, but that is just more for fun than anything...
unclet:
What do you have to do to each table to get it working properly with your display? Did you have to go into the Visual Pinball editor for each table and tweak them? What did you do?
ChadTower:
--- Quote from: Kangum on February 15, 2008, 05:19:01 am ---i have not had much luck with the nudge in visual pinball.
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That is because it sucks in the software. You can't make something work well in a cab that doesn't work well in the software. Frankly, nudge is going to be nearly impossible to get right in software, since it is all feel and intuition on the player's part.
Tim N.:
--- Quote from: ChadTower on February 15, 2008, 09:44:41 am ---
--- Quote from: Kangum on February 15, 2008, 05:19:01 am ---i have not had much luck with the nudge in visual pinball.
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That is because it sucks in the software. You can't make something work well in a cab that doesn't work well in the software. Frankly, nudge is going to be nearly impossible to get right in software, since it is all feel and intuition on the player's part.
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..Yep agreed, there is some slight physics tweaking you can do with the software, but it really is nothing like pinball at all. Even in real pinball, you can have two seemingly identical machines next to each other and they may nudge differently alltogether.
I should note that this visual pinball table I am doing is not made to replace any real pinball tables. If anyone thinks this will do that, it absolutely will not. But I am fairly limited on space, and have 6 pinballs that are keepers, and 1 rotation pin (Currently Demolition Man), so this table allows me to learn rule sets and gameplay for those tables I may be interested in as my next rotation pin. It also allows me to get a feel for games that I know will never make their way into my basement EVER... Games like KingPin and Big Bang Bar....
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