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Restoring vs. Maming a cabinet - The complete rule book

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protokatie:

--- Quote ---because this "hobby" certainly won't be around forever.
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Im sure there must have been a lost episode of StarTrek Voyager in which Tom Paris builds a Ms Pacman cabinet from scratch! So even in the 24th century there will be cab makers! ;)

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fixedpigs:

--- Quote from: javeryh on February 04, 2008, 11:37:12 am ---My thoughts are first and foremost do what you want because it's yours BUT if I were to come across a classic cab that I basically wanted only for the cabinet I would definitely try and part everything out that is salvageable like the artwork, boards, buttons, joysticks, coin door, etc.  It's kind of like how I feel about abortion - it's definitely not for me and something I don't personally believe in but I would never in a million years want it to be illegal or judge someone for going through with it because it's really none of my business.
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“No matter what I say, it draws controversy. It's sort of like the abortion issue. If you're for it, you're a son of a gun. If you're against it, you're a son of a gun.” - bm...

brandon:

--- Quote from: TOK on February 04, 2008, 09:54:29 am ---Here are my guidelines...

1 First off, its yours, so you could do whatever you want with it. My feeling is if you saved it from the dumpster and MAME it, at least its loved. The Asteroids burning in my avatar is real. I didn't burn it, but it was destroyed because it was parted out and needed a monitor. In my opinion, It's better that a classic get MAME'd than that.

2 Certain cabs are typically considered holy and shouldn't be MAME'd. few quick examples of this are Star Wars, Tron, Tempest, Dragons Lair and Major Havoc (Ironically, three of the games on this list are usually gutted because the monitors suck and cost a lot to repair).

3 If you do modify a cab that is considered classic, doing so in a way that it could be converted back won't meet with too much resistance... Don't hack 20 inch holes in the sides to install neon MAMECADE logos.

4 A game that has already been messed up by a prior conversion is pretty much fair game. There were thousands of Pac Man's made, and half of them were converted to Rush N Attack or some crappy wresting game. If the art and control panel are hacked already, you're not hurting anything by hacking them again.


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ChadTower:

--- Quote from: TOK on February 04, 2008, 09:54:29 am ---2 Certain cabs are typically considered holy and shouldn't be MAME'd. few quick examples of this are Star Wars, Tron, Tempest, Dragons Lair and Major Havoc (Ironically, three of the games on this list are usually gutted because the monitors suck and cost a lot to repair).

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...and Dragon's Lair is usually gutted because the laserdisc player is a total ---smurfette---.

SavannahLion:

--- Quote from: Fozzy The Bear on February 04, 2008, 07:00:12 am ---SavannahLion, by your analogies you're saying it's OK to do it because other people are doing it as well...... Great! so it's ok to walk out into the street with a shotgun and blow a few peoples heads off, because somebody else is doing it. It must therefore be OK.... QED.  I'll take bets that in ten to fifteen years time, you'll be looking back at this and saying, why didn't we do something to save them, when we could do. Just because arcade operators throw them out destroy them and leave them to rot, doesn't mean it's OK for us to destroy them.
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Fozzy, I normally respect your opinion, but today... well.... You're so upset over csa3d's cab that you're not seeing the bigger picture for what it's worth. The point I'm making is that you need to choose your battles. There are a lot worse atrocities than what csa3d did to his cab. It saddens me to see people, operators and so-called collectors alike, burning, shredding and throwing otherwise good classic cabs away while lots of people, like myself, would happily take those cabs off their hands.

Think about what's worse? 50 people each MAMEing a classic cab or the operators who irreparably destroy 50 classic cabs to get their rocks off? Or what about cheesy operators who do irreparably bad conversions to classic cabinets? Or like the one operator I encountered, destroyed cabs realizing too late there are people out there who want them.

You wrote:

--- Quote ---I'll take bets that in ten to fifteen years time, you'll be looking back at this and saying, why didn't we do something to save them, when we could do.
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You don't think we wouldn't think your statement would never be true? It comes down to being realistic. I like the work that csa3d did, however I don't like the fact he did it to a near working Galaga. Yeah, he did say one thing at first then change it midstream. That might be something to hold against him. What is your proposal that this sort of thing doesn't happen again? You want Saint to send csa3d into exile? You want to start a classic cab trading programme?

Due to the sheer number of cabinets and the general community as a whole, you CAN NOT save every cab out there. It's just not possible. Nearly each and every single one of us, regardless of how you want to slice it, is in this hobby on our own. We are all in competition with each other to locate that white elephant of ours. And even if we could pick up every cab we came across, we would all quickly run into storage problems.

You need to be realistic Fozzy. Flat out shunning csa3d and others like him is only going to force them to lurk here or congregate elsewhere where that sort of thing is happily supported and encouraged. No matter what you, or anybody else, desires, every single one of the members on this forum are going to do their own thing. Coalesce into decent bargaining group that doesn't do boneheaded dumb moves like the museum sending a Death Race to its death and you might have something.

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