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Carriage Bolts On your CP: Tacky, or Tasteful?
patrickl:
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--- Quote from: brock.sampson on January 27, 2008, 01:09:07 am ---I'm concerned t-nuts would work themselves loose over time.
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How is a t-nut going to work itself loose over time?
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They can become loose quite easily if you don't install them properly. If the hole is too big and you don't use glue etc, all that is holding them in is the prongs which don't take much effort to work loose.
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Glue on a t-nut?
You hammer a T-Nut in and the only way it will works itself loose is if you forget to tighten the bolt on the bottom of the panel.
Whatever issue you might have with improperly installing a t-nut, a t-nut is structurally a lot stronger than a carriage bolt.
Franco B:
Are we on about installing them from the top or bottom of the CP here?
MaximRecoil:
--- Quote from: patrickl on January 27, 2008, 04:46:29 am ---You hammer a T-Nut in and the only way it will works itself loose is if you forget to tighten the bolt on the bottom of the panel.
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Say what? A T-nut can come out the same way it went in, regardless of the tightness of the bolt. The T-nut grips the wood—the bolt screwed into it is irrelevant in regard to whether or not it will work loose.
--- Quote ---Whatever issue you might have with improperly installing a t-nut, a t-nut is structurally a lot stronger than a carriage bolt.
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Again, say what? You have that backwards. You could pry a T-nut mounted joystick off with a flat-bladed screw driver. All that is holding it there is the friction of the short T-nut prongs in the wood, which is about the same idea as mounting the joystick with 12 short nails (4 T-nuts, 3 short prongs each):
I'd like to see someone pry off a joystick mounted with carriage bolts. You'd have to either break the bolts themselves, break the nuts, or somehow pull the bolts completely through the wood (not very easy when the bolt head is a good deal larger than the hole in the wood that the bolt shafts go through).
Bolts are used for heavy duty structural applications where T-nuts wouldn't even hold for a moment.
patrickl:
--- Quote from: MaximRecoil on January 27, 2008, 05:13:37 am ---
--- Quote from: patrickl on January 27, 2008, 04:46:29 am ---You hammer a T-Nut in and the only way it will works itself loose is if you forget to tighten the bolt on the bottom of the panel.
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Say what? A T-nut can come out the same way it went in, regardless of the tightness of the bolt. The T-nut grips the wood—the bolt screwed into it is irrelevant in regard to whether or not it will work loose.
--- Quote ---Whatever issue you might have with improperly installing a t-nut, a t-nut is structurally a lot stronger than a carriage bolt.
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Again, say what? You have that backwards. You could pry a T-nut mounted joystick off with a flat-bladed screw driver. All that is holding it there is the friction of the short T-nut prongs in the wood, which is about the same idea as mounting the joystick with 12 short nails (4 T-nuts, 3 short prongs each):
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You don't understand how a t-nut works then. The bolt goes on on the OTHER side of the wood from the t-nut. The bolt pulls the t-nut into the wood.
A t-nut with bolt is basically the same as a carriage bolt with a nut. The difference is that in the case of the t-nut, the nut is actually stabilized by the nails on the nut.
patrickl:
--- Quote from: Franco B on January 27, 2008, 05:00:17 am ---Are we on about installing them from the top or bottom of the CP here?
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Doesn't matter. The bolt goes on one side and the nut on the other side. For this application it doesn't make much sense to put a t-nut on bottom though.
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