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lanman31337:
I'm going to try to uninstall and reinstall the guncon2 drivers. It works great in windows, not at all in mame. I've tried the build you just discussed, mame+32 and mameui32.
edit: guncon2 drivers were wonky. uninstalled, reinstalled them, they're picking up properly now. they're a teeny bit shaky, but I can live with that. nice build by the way :)
milhouse:
--- Quote from: lanman31337 on February 28, 2008, 03:45:15 pm ---I'm going to try to uninstall and reinstall the guncon2 drivers. It works great in windows, not at all in mame. I've tried the build you just discussed, mame+32 and mameui32.
edit: guncon2 drivers were wonky. uninstalled, reinstalled them, they're picking up properly now. they're a teeny bit shaky, but I can live with that. nice build by the way :)
--- End quote ---
If you are able to get T2 to track, can you let me know what your mame lightgun settings are, or if you had to go into the service manual to calibrate? This is driving me nuts.
Thanks
lanman31337:
T2 is a goofy game - it won't let me use light guns. It was a reversed mouse in the arcade, not a lightgun game like you would think.
Silver:
T2 used positional joysticks, not guns, and can not be played correclty (IMHO) with Act labs or guncon2 guns that flash the screen. LCD Topguns can be used to play the game perfectly.
Although I have not tested the most recent EMS driver, Smog's driver generally worked out easier and superior for mame.
The Topguns are very accurate - I have 2xTopguns, 2xActlabs, 2xBlaze Guncon2's. When everything is calibrated, there is not much between them but both the Actlabs and Guncon2's occaisonally have an "off-shot", say 5% of the time. Never had that issue with the Topguns - there only problem is range (can't get too close).
NB, you should have no problem at all using windows with topguns - I can use it to double click on icons on a 17" crt no problem. If its all over the shop, you may have infra red interference from your lights/sunshine etc...
Topgun Calibration. This is what causes most problems getting mame up and running.
1) There is an in-built hardware calibration for the topguns that must be performed before anything else. Read the manual/wiki etc...
2) Driver install - Smogs driver has pre-set config for Topguns (this is because all topguns give identical data ranges on X and Y, so once hardware calibrated you don't *need* to calibrate the driver. If I recall there was an option in the driver config panel for Topguns (but its been a while!).
3) At this stage you should be able to control the windows mouse accurately with both your guns. If you can't - don't even bother running mame, something else is wrong.
4) Assuming you have windows mouse control, you can start with mame. Remember that:
a) lightguns are treated as mice by mame. (It can not and should not be able to tell the difference). running with "-v" or verbose will show you what mice/lightguns mame is detecting (if you are using command line mame).
b) you need to tell mame what 'mouse' you want to use for what input. There is some info for doing this here: http://wiki.arcadecontrols.com/wiki/Mame_Lightgun_Setup
c) Once all that is set - you then need to configure the game itself for the guns. This is the step that is often missed out or forgotten. It varies for game to game - often light gun games will do this at first start it if there is no nvram file present (i.e. you never ran it before). Or you can access it by running the service mode once the game is running. e.g Termiantor 2 - press f2 for service mode, select "calibrate guns" and calibrate with your gun....
NB Range of Topgun2's.
Note you can reduce the distance you have to stand back by:
1) mount the LED bars top and bottom of the monitor (makes them closer together). Get them working normally first though, remember you will need to re-calibrate when you move the bars.
2) Hack the bars and move the leds closer together. (there are vids on yotube of someone doing this with wii sensor bars - its the same principal)
lanman31337:
Just something I'd like to add - I'd been messing around with some things. Make sure that in your mame.ini that dual_lightguns is 0, and make sure you have mouse for your lightgun controller, not lightgun. I'd been trying everything, I had it working, and then it broke. So I figured out what broke it, and now it's working great.
I'm still having problems with getting the guns to track at all in T2 - I changed ADStick to mouse in mame, and still won't track, but the triggers for the guns work fine.
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