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Mameroom:
--- Quote ---Then whose fault is it, Scott? Whose fault is it that nobody else is getting their panels? In post after post after post after post you made it 100% clear that if people didn't get their panels, it would be because of this thread. If/then, if/then, if/then. You don't have to be a CS major to understand these basic concepts. If "a" happens, then "b" will happen. IF Fozzy posts, THEN nobody gets what they paid for.
Christian has made it clear that HE is blaming this thread. You made it clear with post after post after post after post, yet you denied that you were blaming anybody here (YOUR words "I in no way "Blame" anyone here". So tell us, after all your posts saying it would be the fault of people in this thread, and then denying that you were blaming anyone in this thread, now that it's come to pass (as so many predicted it would) and Christian directly blames Fozzy, whose fault is it that these paying customers don't get their product?
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I have tried from the very beginning to let everyone know that I knew what was going to happen...it was a warning. Not a warning from me, I don't care one way or the other (anymore)...but a warning based on the information that I learned from Chris. ...see all the flack I took because of it, and noone benefitted. Kinda frustrating.
--- Quote ---to mameroom: i am sorry i had to make this decesion but i can not help support someone who scams people out of their money. if and when you stop using christians panels please let me know and i would be happy to do business with you.
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I understand...but be sure to purchase all of your controls from somewhere other than Happ...and make sure the vendor you use, doesn't use Happ controls. They too (just like us) resell Christians products. So a boycott of this type may be more ingrained than you think. I won't call out the SEVERAL other big vendors as they may wish to remain anonymous at this point.
I'm sure that once Christians new business is up and running, that we will no longer offer The Classic, Co2, or Quad Ultimate controllers.
--- Quote ---I think the point that Scott G. was making with the 15%/85% business comments is that Christian's main income does/will come from companies that don't care what anybody on BYOAC thinks.
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Yes, exactly what I was trying to convey...sorry if it could be interpreted a different way.
This whole thing is a shame.
TPB:
--- Quote from: patrickl on January 10, 2008, 06:18:41 pm ---I think the only way to get in touch with him was to have your funds reversed through paypal or the CC company. Apparently if people did that he would suddenly respond. Seems like he was just leading people on so they would stick out the 45 or 90 day period and after that when recovering the money was no longer an option, Christian would stop answering and just didn't deliver anything. I wonder if that isn't something you can go to jail for.
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Yes ... Christian's delaying tactics are legendary.
Some classic excuses, to name a few :
** Trackballs shortage at Happs. :blah:
** Printing problem with overlays provided my Mamemarquees. :blah:
** Dodgy batch of I-PAC's received from Ultimarc. :blah:
** Holiday season rush period. :blah:
patrickl:
--- Quote from: Mameroom on January 10, 2008, 06:30:21 pm ---
--- Quote ---to mameroom: i am sorry i had to make this decesion but i can not help support someone who scams people out of their money. if and when you stop using christians panels please let me know and i would be happy to do business with you.
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I understand...but be sure to purchase all of your controls from somewhere other than Happ...and make sure the vendor you use, doesn't use Happ controls. They too (just like us) resell Christians products. So a boycott of this type may be more ingrained than you think. I won't call out the SEVERAL other big vendors as they may wish to remain anonymous at this point.
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Well I guess he won't be buying slik stik panels from Happ either no.
It's not so much a general boycot of a whole supplier, but to not buy the product from a tainted seller through another channel.
What surprises me is that no one from BYOAC simply takes over this business. Some people here make control panels that are better quality than what Slik Stik offers and I'm sure they could make a nice income based on those prices. I guess no one had realized this was such big business.
FrizzleFried:
Other than the box, what does Christian create? He doesn't do the sticks. He doesn't do the buttons. He doesn't do the trackballs. He doesn't do the encoder. He doesn't do the artwork.
So I ask again...other than the stupid wooden boxes, what does Christian actually PRODUCE that Happ and other vendors want to sell?
If I remember correctly even his spinners are Ultimarc products.
EDIT: It seems that the only thing on HAPP's site that mentions SlikStik is the Tornado Spinner... I am not sure if that is the spinner that they did in conjunction with Ultimarc or not, but it doesn't matter since the GGG spinner is a much better spinner anyway.
I do admit their spinner tops are nice.
ArcadEd:
I'd take it on, but I pretty happy where I am at and the console stick market.
Maybe someday, just not anytime soon. We'll see what happens with this whole mess.
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