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shardian:
--- Quote from: zaphod on January 10, 2008, 03:20:13 pm ---I think you're missing the math here. 15% of their business was BYOAC, which was $20k of unshipped orders. That'd leave $133,000 of other people's money they kept, right?
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Nono, $20k was his "cost" to build the panels. That means the money taken in was probably in the range of $60k.
shardian:
Also, I'd like to point out once again that Christian penned the majority of those emails (and phone calls) that caused people to wait out their chargeback time frames.
The others were signed by a mysterious "Paul", that noone seems to be able to confirm exists, and then the generic "Slik Stik Staff" once things started to get real nitty gritty.
Santoro:
Posting so I am notified of posts in this thread. What a mess.
ChadTower:
--- Quote from: shardian on January 10, 2008, 03:21:53 pm ---Nono, $20k was his "cost" to build the panels. That means the money taken in was probably in the range of $60k.
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Labor costs money, both in actual labor (here spent filling an order someone else was paid for) as well as "lost opportunity" labor that he could be making money on with an order for which he actually took money in. I wouldn't be surprised if that is a large chunk of the figure given.
...that is, if the figure isn't just a number pulled out of his ass to make himself look big, which it very likely was.
quarterback:
--- Quote from: M37R01D on January 10, 2008, 02:27:49 pm ---I would like to post, OFFICIAL words from Christian that I have just received in an email.
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I am putting a cease on all orders that I was going to be filling out of my pocket. Yes, it has to be done. I am not going to sit here and take over 20k out of my pocket to restock the part inventory, manufacture them and ship them out on my dime just to get bashed and not an ounce of praise in return for doing so.
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In case it's not obvious to anybody new who happens to be reading this thread. This is called a self-fulfilling prophecy. If Christian HAD done the right thing and HAD shipped product to people who paid for it, then there would be no reason to bash him. All the naysayers would be wrong (as I noted in my other post). On the other hand, it appears that all the naysayers were entirely 100% correct. Even as he accuses them of being wrong, he proves them right.
Only Christian can decide what Christian is going to do. People are rightfully judged by their actions and not their words. Christian has made the decision to NOT give people the product they paid for. This is his decision and, assuming he sticks to it, he can and should be judged by that decision. Had he made the right decision and provided the product that he himself sold to people, then he would be judged by that decision. However, it appears that he has simply decided to prove that Fozzy was 100% correct. This was his decision and his decision alone.
--- Quote from: quarterback on January 09, 2008, 09:59:02 pm ---just keep in mind what Scott Glazer of Mameroom.com has said over and over and over again because at that point you'll have to admit that 'he told you so':
If you don't get your panel, it was because "MANY members here [who] NEVER purchased anything from SlikStik ruin[ed] it for [you]" click for Scott's full quote
If you don't get your panel, it was because "The continuing flamewar... ensure[d] that [you did] not [get your panel]" click for Scott's full quote
If you don't get your panel, it was because "as a result of a continued tirade [you lost]" click for Scott's full quote
If you don't get your panel, it was because "the only thing people of this forum [did was to end up] screwing people" click for Scott's full quote
If you don't get your panel, it was because "comments from people in this forum prevent[ed it] from happening" click for Scott's full quote
If you don't get your panel, it was because "[posters in this thread were] screwing [you] just as much as SS" click for Scott's full quote
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It's just as Scott Glazer of mameroom.com threatened. The reason people got ripped off is because of this thread. Either STFU or nobody gets what they paid for. Unbelievable.
--- Quote from: Mameroom on January 06, 2008, 07:06:25 pm ---Wait a minute...I think people are misinterpreting my posts. I in no way "Blame" anyone here.
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Then whose fault is it, Scott? Whose fault is it that nobody else is getting their panels? In post after post after post after post you made it 100% clear that if people didn't get their panels, it would be because of this thread. If/then, if/then, if/then. You don't have to be a CS major to understand these basic concepts. If "a" happens, then "b" will happen. IF Fozzy posts, THEN nobody gets what they paid for.
Christian has made it clear that HE is blaming this thread. You made it clear with post after post after post after post, yet you denied that you were blaming anybody here (YOUR words "I in no way "Blame" anyone here". So tell us, after all your posts saying it would be the fault of people in this thread, and then denying that you were blaming anyone in this thread, now that it's come to pass (as so many predicted it would) and Christian directly blames Fozzy, whose fault is it that these paying customers don't get their product?
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