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My first arcade project
drpcken:
--- Quote from: Kangum on October 01, 2007, 11:53:50 am ---if you like that type of cab this is far better inspiration :applaud:
see page 1
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=65678.0
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WOW i really like that one. But I'm a fan of the bigger CP. Maybe not 4 players, but 2 players with 6 buttons each.
I love the colors though.
genesim:
You see, as I said before, my problem is being able to actually play the games I mentioned.
Confusion or not, you cannot get around the fact that 4 way on a 8 way with no restriction just plain sucks!
Though if you are to break it down completely...2 josticks can be overkill for some. You can program the buttons to do the same thing, so I think at least 6 buttons is a must.
But getting around a spinner/trackball issue is just about impossible.
Again, it depends on your taste, but I can't imagine being a classic gamer and not wanting these essentials.
All I can say is think about it alot, because once you make it, you can't go back.
For me, my "frankenpanel" is barebones for my needs, because my needs are playing all those games the best way possible...even down to Qbert!
leapinlew:
--- Quote from: genesim on October 02, 2007, 02:56:26 am ---You see, as I said before, my problem is being able to actually play the games I mentioned.
Confusion or not, you cannot get around the fact that 4 way on a 8 way with no restriction just plain sucks!
Though if you are to break it down completely...2 josticks can be overkill for some. You can program the buttons to do the same thing, so I think at least 6 buttons is a must.
But getting around a spinner/trackball issue is just about impossible.
Again, it depends on your taste, but I can't imagine being a classic gamer and not wanting these essentials.
All I can say is think about it alot, because once you make it, you can't go back.
For me, my "frankenpanel" is barebones for my needs, because my needs are playing all those games the best way possible...even down to Qbert!
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Since authenticity is a goal of an arcade builder, they'll often pick looks AND function. Which is why you see multiple machines at many of our houses instead of 1 machine with all the controls needed. Frankenpanels are diverse for allowing a person to play a lot of games on a single machine, but they don't work well for many people for multiple reasons:
* Many people feel they are unattractive
* They are confusing to casual gamers. If you entertain a lot, this is a big deal.
* all the controls aren't easily accessible
--- Quote from: genesim on October 02, 2007, 02:56:26 am ---All I can say is think about it alot, because once you make it, you can't go back.
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This is entirely wrong. Once you make it, you can go back and remake it. Many of us do this to refine our control panels as we learn our personal ergonomic needs after hours of play.
genesim:
And that is the problem...many feel that all of us are bathed in time and money.
I can tell you right now, my arcade is the first and last that I will ever make. So there is not going back, and I am proud that this is the case.
I suspect there are others that feel this way as well. Though it is an expensive HOBBY, it is still mostly that for the majority.
So in keeping up with kids, wife, job...etc, yeah it would make sense to get it right to begin with.
That and the fact that joe public could care less about how it looks. Because to most, the arcade machine is an eye sore anyway. So having 12 buttons...having 50, it doesn't really matter. What is more an eye sore is having MULTIPLE MACHINES??? Why not just stop all that playing and go with musical chairs. ;D
Who the hell wants that?? What do you need a frickin' arcade room?? Geez, now that is reliving the old days. :laugh2:
Now if you actually take the time and educate your friends, then the problem is solved. I am not needing a block party, just some time with close friends because after all, like alot of us, there is more to life.
My friends are smart, and it doesn't take long(like 2 seconds) to explain to them what joystick to use with what game.
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This is entirely UNTRUE. Matter of fact, a "frankenpanel" is actually more comfortable in many ways. Anyone that has played on one will see quickly there is no adjustment needed. You have more room, and quick switching for whatever game you choose.
Green Giant:
--- Quote from: genesim on October 02, 2007, 03:54:57 am ---That and the fact that joe public could care less about how it looks. Because to most, the arcade machine is an eye sore anyway. So having 12 buttons...having 50, it doesn't really matter. What is more an eye sore is having MULTIPLE MACHINES??? Why not just stop all that playing and go with musical chairs. ;D
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I have to disagree with you there. I have found that probably 95% of guys between the ages of 3 and 40 think having an arcade is sweet. When they see mine they all love it. Then there is probably 60% of women that love it, but some think it needs to be in a game room environment.
They do have the common sense to recognize style. Ten joysticks on a single panel will look silly to them and overwhelming, but the traditional two will look normal and bring back old memories.
Every single person on here with multiple machines has them in a game room with other entertainment devices such as pool table, bar, jukebox, movie theatre, etc. Musical chairs is just not fun without 10 or more people.
--- Quote from: genesim on October 02, 2007, 03:54:57 am ---My friends are smart, and it doesn't take long(like 2 seconds) to explain to them what joystick to use with what game.
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The question is how do you explain the controls on a game you have never played. With several thousand out there, do you know them all? Devices like the U360 and electric ice buttons simplify this and make any game useable by anyone.
--- Quote from: genesim on October 02, 2007, 03:54:57 am ---
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This is entirely UNTRUE. Matter of fact, a "frankenpanel" is actually more comfortable in many ways. Anyone that has played on one will see quickly there is no adjustment needed. You have more room, and quick switching for whatever game you choose.
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If you have a frankenpanel, a real one that plays every game around, it WILL have controls not easily accessible. You have two options to use, make it 6ft wide with every thing spaced out nicely but difficult to see the screen, or use layers where you will have to reach over the front controls to play. This is generally defined as difficult to reach. You might disagree, but that is the consensus of most people here.
Also, having two 8ways and a 4way with trackball and spinner is not a frankenpanel. All those plus two more 8-ways, 8 buttons each, guns, three trackballs total, two spinners, a topfire joystick, a flight yoke, pedals, a diagonal qbert stick, asteroids button layout, steering wheel, and whatever else you can get your hands on makes a true frankenpanel. Try and show me a layout with all that crap that will be easy to use.
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