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New Product: Micro-Leaf™ Arcade Pushbutton Switches - GroovyGameGear
Tiger-Heli:
--- Quote from: destructor on September 29, 2007, 06:36:18 am ---Thing is that switch's plunger return not vertically but using some angle = slower return pushbutton to top position.
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Which btw, is how the original leaf switch would have worked also - would it not? The two leaves were hinged at a point some 2-3 inches from the contacts, so the leaf in theory would have a slower return to top - although a standard vertical pushbutton microswitch and plunger will also have a slower return to top position because the springs are less compressed = less upward force, so I'm not seeing your point.
Well - I suppose the springs in both the plunger and the vertical microswitch are still in compression even when the button is released, so you can argue that for the extent of the travel, the additional force of the spring is negligible ...
Xiaou2:
"usual suspects"
Hope you arnt referring to me. Patrick is an ****. You can see him
argue with me on the politics board constantly.
While I was thinking of posting.. I figured it wasnt worth the hassle. But
since Im here now.. Ill add my .02$
The term 'Leaf' is a bit unsettling... because, its not a leaf in the classic
arcade sense one bit.
I believe a lot of people would prefer true leaf repros instead actually.
A slight modification, with a heavy duty bottom stop to prevent
excess travel - should make these excellent sellers.
However, that said, I have a submicro.. and tested it by holding it by
hand in a happs button. Mounted at an angle as you have it, does
decrease the actuation amount. Also, because these micros have the
actuation button so close to the leverage point, it helps even more.
Did it feel like a leaf? nah... not even close.
Click noise was reduced of course.
Speed in actuation was better than a bigger micro tho.
My concern is that these types of Micros were used in the Daytona USA
Shifters... and they died fairly quickly. Its possible that this brand
is more durable... but hard to say.
If Randy allows purchase of the mini-micros without the adapter
plates for a reduces price.. it would make it a little better.
As if one does die, no need for the extra plate.
Its a decent solution to those who want a bit more performance,
are annoyed with loud clicks, and dont want to mess with leaf
adjustments.
But for the true classic games player that is used to a real leafs feel,
they may be pretty disappointed.
A real leaf has that sort of 'glide on air' feel to it - Where as a micro has
a different resistance to it cause of the additional friction and pressures
needed to activate them. It does slow the process down (your
max shots per sec) , as well as feels more tiring when used rapidly.
Anyways, Im not badmouthing it. Its has its place.
Maybe 'Super Mini-Micro's' would be a better product name tho.
Timoe:
Well on the wico joystick leafswitch it has a small plastic actuator against the two metal leafs. And on my bicycle at home, it has two rubber grips on the handle bars and when I spray hairspray on the insides of the grips they stay on the handle bars better.
Apples and oranges people. Do you have the GGG micro leaf? No?
Then ask (legitimate) questions about it if you are curious but dont try and give testimonials or reviews on something you've never actually seen.
Praise be to the innovators still inventing worthwhile products for machines that are basically not in production any longer. Keep it up. We'll keep buying.
:cheers:
destructor:
--- Quote from: Tiger-Heli on September 29, 2007, 08:51:07 am ---standard vertical pushbutton microswitch and plunger will also have a slower return to top position because the springs are less compressed = less upward force, so I'm not seeing your point.
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Spring inside pushbutton? Less compressed? Show me pushbutton with high compressed spring.
Aurich:
You know, everytime this happens (this is hardly the first of these threads) it seems like Randy takes the trouble to make a new product, but then has a little too much fun writing names and marketing copy that end up distracting from the actual product. Which is all that counts at the end of the day, unless you enjoy talking about buttons more than using them. Which might be somewhat true here, granted.
I give Randy a ton of credit for working on this stuff, and don't knock his desire to see a little money from it. But the product descriptions just sound a little snake-oily with the overhyped feel, and I can't help but agree with people that using the word "leaf" is a little misleading, no matter what your dictionary says. My friendly suggestion: Tone down just a little bit, everyone knows who you are and what you do, there's no need to come across so strongly.
I have no dog in this fight, my cabinet is strictly Sanwa. ;)
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