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buks:
Just re-read your comments on Frets running like a dog on your PC - try Guitar Zero as some people have reported that it runs better than Frets. AFAIK Frets is written in Python and GZ is written in C++ - which might explain the slowdown. I've got a 1.8GHz machine in my cab and it runs fine.
Buks
my58vw:
Before we start to bash guitar freaks and bemani - let me say that they were first on the block - and guitar hero should have made their controllers compatible. Just because they choose not to be, does not make either better than another. GF is just a more challenging game than GH - GH has more popular music. To my knowledge DTX is only avalable from GFVDMV, GF2DM2, Masterpiece Silver, and Masterpiece Gold - it dies not work with earlier games.
If you sign up here you can find complete simfiles for all GF/DM games on the home page
http://www.gdamania.net/
MAME is along was to making GF/DM smooth running on any machine, kind of like beatmania.
GF ASCs are pretty much non existent right now, I can not even get my hands on one, the KOC (small version) can be had via places like playasia. A gentleman in china names DJDAO is making a replica of the arcade controller from Roland parts, you can find out about that on bemanistyle.com
If you have any questions I can answer them - I own every GF/DM game (PS2) in existance, along with bits of arcade hardware... BTW GF3rdDM2nd is very hard to find.
pboreham:
Just tried the PC version of Frets on Fire and it works smooth and fine - I love it!!! Only got the default song pack at the moment, but am currently obtaining all the other packs - looks like hundreds and hundreds of songs.
Tried playing Sultans of Swing on the keyboard, but it just sounded painful!
Will definately install FoF in the cab and use a GH guitar for the controller. This is gonna be ace!
Crowquill:
pboreham--you could always try the OS X version of Frets of Fire too. Should be a cool project. Several other people have mentioned in passing doing this as well. Should be interesting to see how some of these develop.
My58vw--Don't get me wrong--I'm not bashing Bemani by any means. Konami pioneered pretty much any aspect of music games. I definitely prefer GH over GF, mostly due to song selection. I'd much rather play guitar along with a track I know. The other factor is availability-I've only seen one GF arcade machine to play. I also have to give props to Harmonix for developing such a polished game. It's not just guitar hero either...I have Karaoke Revolution and Party, Amplitude, Frequency, and GH2. All are very well-developed games. It also might help that it's a game developed for a western audience.
The funny part is I'm not even that good at rhythm games. I'm just in awe of the funky controllers and how they give a completely different play experience than other games. That's probably why I spend so much time on these boards and why I spent the time building a DDR pad. It's also probably why I have a closet and 2 drawers full of controllers.
One other rhythm game for PS2 that doesn't get enough attention--Taiko Drum Master. Donkey Konga is basically the same game, but hitting the Taiko drums with sticks is much more satisfying (and less tiring) than the congas. And as a bonus you get to drum along to music from Katamari Damacy.
And to get back on topic...
MonMotha:
--- Quote from: my58vw on July 09, 2007, 02:43:54 pm ---Before we start to bash guitar freaks and bemani - let me say that they were first on the block - and guitar hero should have made their controllers compatible. Just because they choose not to be, does not make either better than another. GF is just a more challenging game than GH - GH has more popular music. To my knowledge DTX is only avalable from GFVDMV, GF2DM2, Masterpiece Silver, and Masterpiece Gold - it dies not work with earlier games.
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It also works on 3rd/2nd, but nothing earlier, hence my MIDI to Playstation Digital adapter.
As far as controller quality, it can be spotty. The Guitar Hero controller is slightly better built, yes. However, all the GF controllers I've used (including the official Konami one) all just show up as a digital controller, same as the GH one, but with no buttons held. All of Konami's custom controllers work like this except the pop'n mini/ASC, which has 3 buttons stuck on to indicate controller type.
If you want info on any Bemani hardware, I also have far too much experience with them, including non-573 based products such as Para Para, IIDX, original beatmania, etc. 573 and Twinkle (original IIDX) are just playstation based, which is why MAME has support.
As far as starting yet another GH vs. GF flamewar, I'll refrain, but I will point out that Guitar Freaks existed for over 5 years before Guitar Hero showed up. There was even a US arcade release (albeit very limited). I mostly play IIDX, pop'n music, and Pump It Up now (the latter not being a Konami product).
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