Main Restorations Software Audio/Jukebox/MP3 Everything Else Buy/Sell/Trade
Project Announcements Monitor/Video GroovyMAME Merit/JVL Touchscreen Meet Up Retail Vendors
Driving & Racing Woodworking Software Support Forums Consoles Project Arcade Reviews
Automated Projects Artwork Frontend Support Forums Pinball Forum Discussion Old Boards
Raspberry Pi & Dev Board controls.dat Linux Miscellaneous Arcade Wiki Discussion Old Archives
Lightguns Arcade1Up Try the site in https mode Site News

Unread posts | New Replies | Recent posts | Rules | Chatroom | Wiki | File Repository | RSS | Submit news

  

Author Topic: help with memory  (Read 1963 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

danny_galaga

  • Grand high prophet of the holy noodle.
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 8522
  • Last login:Yesterday at 07:20:25 am
  • because the mail never stops
    • dans cocktail lounge
help with memory
« on: April 02, 2007, 08:52:23 am »


no, i still remember where i left the car keys! its my computer memory i need help with. seems this is what i have now, two of these spec ram:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1-x-DDR-256MB-RAM-PC2700-DDR333-333Mhz-PC-Memory-Module_W0QQitemZ180100777792QQcategoryZ44937QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

what id like is something bigger as it seems 512 is a bit minimal for xp and my pc does go a bit slow sometimes. now if i get something like 2 x 512mb, does the 333 in the above mean bus speed? is this what i need to look for? if there was a 512mb with 400mhz, would that work or no?


ROUGHING UP THE SUSPECT SINCE 1981

Samstag

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1378
  • Last login:December 16, 2016, 01:41:19 am
  • That's not a llama!
Re: help with memory
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2007, 10:46:16 am »
Yes, 333 is the bus speed.  And yes, you can use 400MHz ram, even if your processor/motherboard can't take advantage of the extra speed.  If your system can handle the 400, just keep in mind that if you install the 400 and the 333 at the same time, you'll only get 333.

tommy

  • Guest
  • Trade Count: (0)
Re: help with memory
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2007, 10:50:47 am »
Like he said but in other words, using one faster speed memory with a slower speed will bring the faster down to the slowest speed stick. You probably should go with 2 new 400 sticks.

ChadTower

  • Chief Kicker - Nobody's perfect, including me. Fantastic body.
  • Trade Count: (+12)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 38212
  • Last login:June 22, 2025, 04:57:38 pm
Re: help with memory
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2007, 10:53:30 am »

OTOH, that speed difference will be so negligible that you'll never perceive it.  People put too much stock in raw specs that make zero difference in 99% of circumstances.

tommy

  • Guest
  • Trade Count: (0)
Re: help with memory
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2007, 10:56:12 am »
That's true, but at some point having all the fastest parts working together will help things a bit.

Tiger-Heli

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5447
  • Last login:January 03, 2018, 02:19:23 pm
  • Ron Howard? . . . er, I mean . . . Run, Coward!!!
    • Tiger-Heli
Re: help with memory
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2007, 11:10:47 am »

OTOH, that speed difference will be so negligible that you'll never perceive it.  People put too much stock in raw specs that make zero difference in 99% of circumstances.

OTOOH, speaking from experience, often you buy the 333 Mhz memory b/c it's cheaper, then you update the processor and motherboard to 400 Mhz, but you know you have the same type of memory available, so you dump the 333 memory in the 400 motherboard and wonder why you start getting memory errors after 6 months or so.
It's not what you take when you leave this world behind you, it's what you leave behind you when you go. - R. Travis.
When all is said and done, generally much more is SAID than DONE.

Harry Potter

  • Smite-bait
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2844
  • Last login:May 27, 2024, 03:33:28 am
  • Sober until banned. Can post but still can't read.
Re: help with memory
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2007, 11:31:44 am »
not so the 333 being cheaper.

I went to buy some 266 RAM a while back.

512Mb new was $99AUS, 333 was $75 and 400 was $52.

Supply and demand and the demand is greater for 400.

Danny, get the 400 sticks. You should be able to pick up a 512Mb for $55-60 if you look around a bit.
Now in a tasty new flavour.

ChadTower

  • Chief Kicker - Nobody's perfect, including me. Fantastic body.
  • Trade Count: (+12)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 38212
  • Last login:June 22, 2025, 04:57:38 pm
Re: help with memory
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2007, 11:42:21 am »

I have always mixed and matched my ram as to whatever I could get least expensively at that moment and actually functioned.  This is over a decade on many machines.  Not once have I ever had a RAM error or DIMM/SIMM failure.  I tend to run my machines 24/7 for years at a time.  I don't even look at speed.  I look at size, "will it work with this motherboard", and price.

danny_galaga

  • Grand high prophet of the holy noodle.
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 8522
  • Last login:Yesterday at 07:20:25 am
  • because the mail never stops
    • dans cocktail lounge
Re: help with memory
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2007, 07:24:57 am »

cool, so the upshot of it is as long as its ddr ram, then the speed isnt critical and if i mix and match then the slowest ram is the speed it will run at. its off to ebay for a couple of 512s then (",)


ROUGHING UP THE SUSPECT SINCE 1981

Tiger-Heli

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5447
  • Last login:January 03, 2018, 02:19:23 pm
  • Ron Howard? . . . er, I mean . . . Run, Coward!!!
    • Tiger-Heli
Re: help with memory
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2007, 08:05:10 am »
cool, so the upshot of it is as long as its ddr ram, then the speed isnt critical and if i mix and match then the slowest ram is the speed it will run at. its off to ebay for a couple of 512s then (",)

Not exactly - if it's 400 and your motherboard is set for 333, then it will run at 333.  If it's 333 and your motherboard only supports 400, it will run at 400 (for a while . . .).
It's not what you take when you leave this world behind you, it's what you leave behind you when you go. - R. Travis.
When all is said and done, generally much more is SAID than DONE.

DrewKaree

  • - AHOTW - Pompous revolving door windbag *YOINKER*
  • Wiki Master
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 9740
  • Last login:May 15, 2021, 05:31:18 pm
  • HAH! Nice one!
    • A lifelong project
Re: help with memory
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2007, 07:56:21 pm »
denny....dunny....deeny....YOU THERE!  It doesn't matter what you're gonna do.  Your puter is gonna asplode.

Love,
Teh innernets
You’re always in control of your behavior. Sometimes you just control yourself
in ways that you later wish you hadn’t

danny_galaga

  • Grand high prophet of the holy noodle.
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 8522
  • Last login:Yesterday at 07:20:25 am
  • because the mail never stops
    • dans cocktail lounge
Re: help with memory
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2007, 06:27:23 am »
cool, so the upshot of it is as long as its ddr ram, then the speed isnt critical and if i mix and match then the slowest ram is the speed it will run at. its off to ebay for a couple of 512s then (",)

Not exactly - if it's 400 and your motherboard is set for 333, then it will run at 333.  If it's 333 and your motherboard only supports 400, it will run at 400 (for a while . . .).


yeah, i realise that. all i want is to upgrade the size of the memory. all that seems to be available (easily) to do that are 512mb at 400mhz. so i understand it will only run at 333...

drew. ive got a line for hecklers like you:

"hey...you! shh, shut up!"  ;D


ROUGHING UP THE SUSPECT SINCE 1981

DrewKaree

  • - AHOTW - Pompous revolving door windbag *YOINKER*
  • Wiki Master
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 9740
  • Last login:May 15, 2021, 05:31:18 pm
  • HAH! Nice one!
    • A lifelong project
Re: help with memory
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2007, 09:08:27 am »

drew. ive got a line for hecklers like you:

"hey...you! shh, shut up!"  ;D


Been talkin' to KoolMoeCraig again, I see
You’re always in control of your behavior. Sometimes you just control yourself
in ways that you later wish you hadn’t

FrizzleFried

  • no one listens to me anyway.
  • Trade Count: (+4)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5146
  • Last login:July 24, 2025, 09:28:02 am
    • Idaho Garagecade
Re: help with memory
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2007, 09:55:40 am »
Hell,  I haven't run a CPU or memory stick at stock speeds in over 10 years...so I am NOT the guy to talk to.  Overclocking = your friend.

Visit my arcade blog at: www.idahogaragecade.com (Updated 10-28-21)

ChadTower

  • Chief Kicker - Nobody's perfect, including me. Fantastic body.
  • Trade Count: (+12)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 38212
  • Last login:June 22, 2025, 04:57:38 pm
Re: help with memory
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2007, 10:04:28 am »

I've always been more surprised so few people overclock processors going into MAME cabs.  It seems like such a tiny effort in the grand scheme of a full build.

danny_galaga

  • Grand high prophet of the holy noodle.
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 8522
  • Last login:Yesterday at 07:20:25 am
  • because the mail never stops
    • dans cocktail lounge
Re: help with memory
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2007, 10:06:27 am »


just want my pc to run a bit more smoothly. the only time i had a go at overclocking, i ran my 400mhz cpu to 600mhz before it froze and that was the end of that! i didnt improve cooling or anything of course. but other than that experiment (i wanted to get raiden running full speed on my old computer) i have no need of overclocking...


ROUGHING UP THE SUSPECT SINCE 1981