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FrizzleFried:
I wonder what Paige thinks about showcase cabinets...

 :dunno

HaRuMaN:

--- Quote from: Numbski on March 13, 2007, 09:14:32 am ---Well, I may wind up re-doing my CP top, and if I do, then I need some opinions:





Originally I was just going to do a custom overlay, but I made enough mistakes building the top that I may just do it over.  No angled outer players????

Dimensions are roughly 48"x15.5"  I designed the game for maximum elbow room.  The thing that drove me nuts about fighting game cabinets, is that player 2 always seemed to be at a disadvantage, as either you had to elbow your opponent, or hold your arm at some screwy cock-eyed angle.

On new year's eve, myself and three other guys completed TMNT with no issues, and I was in the player 1 slot for that game (far left, angled) and I didn't notice at all.  Is this really such a bane?

I have the rest of the pics here:

http://www.numbski.com/cab

and the panel work I'm doing now here:

http://www.numbski.com/hacks/cab

anyhoo...   :dizzy:

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Also, players 3 & 4 (your outer players) need 4 buttons at the very most.

spelosi:

--- Quote from: btp2k2 on March 13, 2007, 02:00:09 am ---Yeah, what is wrong with gamepad hacks?

I am in the process of making a cabinet running my Sega Dreamcast...you got a better solution than a gamepad hack?

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I don't have a problem with gamepad hacks, but to save yourself A LOT of time you could go with an x-arcade stick, gut it and install it in your CP. They sell an adapter to use the x-arcade with Dreamcast.

I'm using a gutted tankstick in my CP and am very happy with it.

X-gaming also sells do-it-yourself kits, so you don't have to gut the x-arcade. This could save some dollars, but is only really valuable if you don't want to use their bottons. I used their buttons for a while, but now I've swapped them all out.

Anyway, it's a better option than a gamepad hack.

Good luck!

Steve

Crowquill:
I'd agree with most of those, but I'm also one of the guys who keeps posting links to real cabs on KLOV as examples on how to do things. I think that Atari, Midway, and Konami probably have experimented with enough designs to know what worked best when using standard parts. That said, I'm very bull-headed about trying to find a better/different way to do things. But I still keep looking to multiple examples of the old cabs for reference. I think it's great that people try new things, but like the title of the post says, it's also a shame to see some of these things repeated.

The two-piece cabs have one thing going for them. For many people without nice side-art, they end up looking better than many of the traditional-style cabs. The only classic cab I can think of with a two-piece design is Gorf and that design was simplified to a 1-piece with Tron's cabinet.

The notched front started out on classic cabs as a way to have more foot-room. Unfortunately it snowballed from there. You can integrate a keyboard tray without adding an ugly lump on the front. And like the example with the Ultracade marquee, you'd break your back if you really wanted to use the coin door.

For the back, I prefer to see an extended box built on the back panel than to have the notched back. This is how my Primal Rage cab is made. But then again if you look at a Neo-Geo cab you'll see the notched back.

A 4-way Super is better than using an 8-way, but I wince whenever I see someone posting that they're going to re-create the experience of playing a real Pac-Man machine with a microswitched joystick. My MAME cab uses two beat-up 8-way wico leaf sticks.

I'm overjoyed that keyboard hacks are a thing of the past. Gamepad hacks can work. My MAME cab uses two PS1 Dual Shocks with Spiffyshoes solderless hack (much cheaper than an X-Arcade). I already had the right revisions of the controllers and my soldering skills suck. I have two of the Innovation PS-> DC adapters and adapters to use gamecube and Xbox with PS pads. When I started building my cab it was going to do everything. Now I only play arcade games on it.  Since then I've soft-modded my XBOX and now I can play the emulators on the TV where they were intended. My cocktail I'm currently building will use a mini-pac.

HaRuMaN:

--- Quote from: spelosi on March 13, 2007, 09:52:09 am ---
--- Quote from: btp2k2 on March 13, 2007, 02:00:09 am ---Yeah, what is wrong with gamepad hacks?

I am in the process of making a cabinet running my Sega Dreamcast...you got a better solution than a gamepad hack?

--- End quote ---

I don't have a problem with gamepad hacks, but to save yourself A LOT of time you could go with an x-arcade stick, gut it and install it in your CP. They sell an adapter to use the x-arcade with Dreamcast.

I'm using a gutted tankstick in my CP and am very happy with it.

X-gaming also sells do-it-yourself kits, so you don't have to gut the x-arcade. This could save some dollars, but is only really valuable if you don't want to use their bottons. I used their buttons for a while, but now I've swapped them all out.

Anyway, it's a better option than a gamepad hack.

Good luck!

Steve

--- End quote ---

X-Arcade controls suck.  Period.  Stay far far away from them.

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