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New rules regarding copyright and the DMCA: How is MAME effected?
kelemvor:
--- Quote ---...when circumvention is accomplished for the purpose of preservation or archival reproduction...
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Doesn't affect us at all since playing the ROMs is completely different than archiving them.
Havok:
--- Quote from: kelemvor on November 30, 2006, 09:24:41 am ---
--- Quote ---...when circumvention is accomplished for the purpose of preservation or archival reproduction...
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Doesn't affect us at all since playing the ROMs is completely different than archiving them.
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No, no. no - you have it all wrong: we are not playing the ROM, we are verifying the archive was properly performed. And future tests are just to verify that said ROM was not corrupted whilst in storage.
shardian:
--- Quote from: Havok on November 30, 2006, 09:33:03 am ---
--- Quote from: kelemvor on November 30, 2006, 09:24:41 am ---
--- Quote ---...when circumvention is accomplished for the purpose of preservation or archival reproduction...
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Doesn't affect us at all since playing the ROMs is completely different than archiving them.
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No, no. no - you have it all wrong: we are not playing the ROM, we are verifying the archive was properly performed. And future tests are just to verify that said ROM was not corrupted whilst in storage.
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Except for the fact that we are not actually members of the official archiving group, or any library. ;)
Any librarians in here? :laugh2: I used to volunteer, does that count?
FrizzleFried:
Not to sound crude...who really...WHO GIVES A "POO"? If you can point out ONE SINGLE person here who owns EVERY SINGLE ROM he has on his system, I can point you to some kickass OCEAN FRONT PROPERTY in Kansas that is a helluva steal!
leapinlew:
--- Quote from: lloydcom on November 30, 2006, 09:03:47 am ---
--- Quote from: Fozzy The Bear on November 29, 2006, 08:34:36 pm ---
Of course... Nobody here has ROMs that they don't own the original arcade boards for do they ;) :laugh2:
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I have some dead boards in the loft which I can now play on MAME, and some laserdiscs which I can play on Daphne. So your above post is a bit off target. If the hardware dies we can play those games without the DMCA getting their hooks into us if they walked in one day, if that would ever happen...
Granted you are in the UK, as your response on the previous thread suggests, but this site is based in the US, and is quite important. Since your comments are UK biased we can exclude them in this discussion as it doesn't impact you.
As I cannot see the DMCA's reach being able to grab you Fozzy, but their are others in this hobby who like to stay legal with a valid moral reason to do so. But to entertain the thought, a visit by PC plod would cause you no end of bother, even if the odds are a million to 1.
I'm sure there are others on this board that are in the same boat, which play MAME legally. My previous post was exactly in the same vein as the original poster on this thread.
Can you qualify yourself Fozzy with the both comments made on both threads?
Are you a solicitor or some way trained in US copyright law?
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I agree with both you guys.
On one side you have the new ruling which seems to suggest it's ok to circumvent technologies if the hardware is no longer present or accessible. On the other hand you have copyrighted material that is owned by a corporation.
Fozzy is saying "it doesn't impact us whatsover" but in truth it does, what about materials that fall in the cracks? Hardware designs that may have been patented and necessary to play a game - like a yoke. What about games who had copyrights owned by companies who are no longer in existance or the status of a copyright is unknown. Lots of the games were tied directly to hardware.
The library argument was spelled out in the last thread. Archiving isn't the only purpose of a library, but it is the one people most closely associate with it. Sure, it's flimsy but it's a step closer to legal ROM ownership. (at least for some ROMS)
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