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I need pictures of original Galaga cabinet
Wade:
Yeah, talk about beating a dead horse. ;) Well, we reasoned that there might be some cabinets somewhere with a sloped front, but no one has found one yet to my knowledge.
You're right, I can prove there are straight fronts and that doesn't prove they ALL are. The same could be said about any claim, no matter how outrageous (lets see.. there were factory neon orange 720 cabinets... disprove that). ;) I also agree, there won't be a true resolution to this unless someone finds a sloped front.
I agree, there are some other things about Jakobud's plans that are fishy, not surprisingly. There is a radius on the original cabinets, that is just a detail that he left out. Again, I know his plans aren't perfect because I supplied the T&F plans and notified him of a correction, which he never added. He also left some radiused corners off.
FWIW, my buddy with the Galaga also has a MsPac right next to it now, and they are identical as far as profile. Just a quick glance and it's obvious. I will try to get some detail pics of both cabinets when I go over there next. I think all ply MsPacs and MDF Galagas very likely have the same profile. An occasional bootleg or a Bosconian conversion Galaga or MsPac could be slightly different.
BTW, where were the other 2 sources of sloped front info? I thought it all stemmed from Jakobud's plans and people propagating that design. If there are 3 independent sources of the info, it would lend a lot of credibility to the idea.
TTYL,
Wade
patrickl:
The southafrican site I posted before has a set of measurements. This is from before Jakobuds site. I cannot find the third anymore (I'm at work now), but also some MsPac pictures definately show a sloped front (don't have them now either, but still). See from the south african site: set of measurements and Clear MsPac
I'd love some nice pictures of a Galaga cab. It would be good to have the plans corrected and I hope I can check the colors properly.
Wade:
I looked into the South African site, and if you explore http://www.retro.co.za/arcade/cabinet.html then you'll see that he hasn't even seen a dedicated Mspac/Galaga in person, and he just made those dims for his own cabinet based on some pictures and measurements he found on the net (including the common MsPac dims over the photo, which show a slight curve to the front but the dims say the front is straight). I can also spot that the top sides don't stick up far enough above the top surface of the game (compare this to the clear MsPac which looks more accurate to me... perhaps 3" of maximum height from the top up to the top side). I think we can toss that drawing out as being even remotely dependable.
The clear MsPac sure appears to have a sloped front, but again it is just a picture, and they can be deceiving. Without someone actually seeing that clear one in person, it's hard to say. Not to mention, it is clearly (pun intended) not an original cabinet. It is possible it was built slightly off.
When looking at my buddy's Galaga the other day I noticed that a photo can really "suggest" that the front is sloped. It is because the artwork on the kickplate makes the lower edge well defined. Since the MDF if glossy, the upper part can get a reflection of the overlap and it ends up making the top portion appear to be more like 3/4" deep rather than the 3/8" or so that it really is. I will try to take a picture to demonstrate this, though his isn't as glossy as factory (totally rebuilt, relaminated) so the effect might be hard to capture. I won't be able to get total measurements for the game right now, the game room is too crowded and we'd have to move a bunch of stuff, but I could hit some highlights.
I'm sorry, but I can't help much with the colors, as we applied repro twobit artwork, which looks pretty good but isn't exactly the same as the original. Most noticable to me was the two shades of green were FAR to similar. One of the greens on the originals is MUCH darker than the other. Some of the other colors looked a little off too, but I haven't had a chance to compare them side by side. I have seen other repros that weren't screen printed and had a layer of clear laminate over them (the original is not that glossy), but the colors were actually closer to the original. I think a couple of my buddies bought a set or two of these as extras (they have been selling for about $10 each. Probably great for a home built cabinet where screen printed artwork isn't a requirement).
Wade
Wade:
Oh yeah. I did get pics and the dims in question for a Mspac and Galaga. If anyone is interested, I can send the pics.
Thanks,
Wade
patrickl:
I'd say you shuld send those to Jakobud so he can change his drawings for all the people that use those.
If you don't mind then I'd like them too so I can fix my own plans.
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