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Tiger-Heli:
I'm not following you - Using EmuLoader again - MAME 0.108 (not 0.108u1) supports 6242 games (some of these are BIOS files like the Neo-Geo Bios or the CVS Bios, so clicking "Hide Bios" leaves 6216 games.
So if you had a complete 108 rom set, you would be able to launch 6216 games (so of them won't work, though b/c the drivers are not completed or MAME has a bug in this version), and this list would include all of the "set" games.
Does this help, or are you still confused?
Minwah:
--- Quote from: jlfreund on August 28, 2006, 12:27:34 pm ---What I still don't understand is if everything that appears in the front end menu _could_ be playable (assuming you downloaded the ROM, and assuming the ROM works). Putting aside the fact that FE's can use different heuristics for constructing a list -- do any front ends display a menu item for something that can never be played because it belongs to a set?
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If you mean will a FE display a clone, if it's parent romset doesn't exist, then probably some will and some wont. Speaking for Mamewah, with the exception of the _vs_verifysets list generation methods (now redundant as -verifysets was removed from Mame), Mamewah will show a clone rom even if it's parent doesn't exist. My thinking is that one should ensure the romsets are all in good order by using ClrMAME or other, before running from a FE...and originally to reduce time taken to generate a list. Realistically with todays hardware I doubt adding the extra check would increase the time by much, but there will still be people who's parent roms are bad ;)
--- Quote ---I've tried MameWah and a couple others and see most games have "... set1" "... set 2", or "... 1a", "... 1b", or "... (World)", "... (Japan)", etc. Are all of those unique games (ie different versions of the same game that _could_ be playable, or are there sometimes partial sets listed as separate menu items that don't belong on the menu?
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The 'parent' rom is required to play any 'clone' of it. It isn't always clear which version is the parent, but if you unsure then MAWS is a decent place to look: http://www.mameworld.net/maws/
Tiger-Heli:
--- Quote from: Minwah on August 28, 2006, 04:47:46 pm ---The 'parent' rom is required to play any 'clone' of it.
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Assuming you are using split sets.
(Actually, if you are using merged sets, the parent rom is also required, but you won't have a clone rom. If you are using not-merged sets, then only the clone rom is required, but you'll have a large rom directory size).
Just for clarification.
Howard_Casto:
Actually it's always clear which rom is the parent.
In the listinfo entry for that game, the cloneof entry tells you the parent name.
You need to be running split-non merged sets btw, in which case you need a parent rom.
Minwah:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on August 29, 2006, 08:00:03 am ---Actually it's always clear which rom is the parent.
In the listinfo entry for that game, the cloneof entry tells you the parent name.
You need to be running split-non merged sets btw, in which case you need a parent rom.
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Clear to me and you, yes, but if simply running in a FE (which may not display this info) then it is not clear from just the game description.
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