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Raleigh:
--- Quote from: RandyT on August 04, 2006, 10:42:52 am ---
--- Quote from: Raleigh on August 04, 2006, 10:01:49 am ---This is the way to go. I am not seeing where you where misled as you had the same info as you do now, sounds more like second thoughts. You may "feel" mislead but you are going to inconvienence him as a result, if you would have not bid or followed through he would have his sold item instead of now needing to recope his ebay fees and selling the item again, and unfortunately offering it to the next highest bidder rarely works as they usually assume that the nonpaying high bid was a shill or they lost interest.
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I disagree. Much of the description practices used on eBay are designed to mislead. Like MYX says, either there is a DOA guarantee or there is not. If there is no guarantee, then do not place language concerning one in the listing at all. Just say what the deal is: "Red light on the front, no screen activity, no guarantee". Yeah, right!
If the seller can't be bothered to accurately describe simple and important aspects of the item they are selling or their expectations for the transaction in a non-intentionally-confusing way, then screw 'em. If he had sold it to someone else, there's a very good possibility that the same thing would have occurred with that other unfortunate person.
There are too many dirtbags on eBay who don't even deliver what they promise when the description is clearly worded. The only way to clean up these kinds of practices is to not allow them to work. Furthermore, anyone who thinks these kind of practices are OK, are probably guilty of perpetrating something similar themselves.
Save your money, the rating isn't worth anything as a buyer. He has more to lose should you wish to retaliate.
Just my opinion....(err....rant?)
RandyT
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I am not disagreeing about the tactics, I am just saying that it seems all the information was available when he bid, if it seems misleading now it should have seemed misleading originally. I am not privy to the intent of the seller, but if someone thinks the intent of the seller is to mislead one should avoid the auction and not bid.
Lesson is to read auctions carefully, ask all questions prior to auction ending, and only bid on what you want to win.
rdagger:
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RandyT:
--- Quote from: Raleigh on August 04, 2006, 11:45:11 am ---I am not disagreeing about the tactics, I am just saying that it seems all the information was available when he bid, if it seems misleading now it should have seemed misleading originally. I am not privy to the intent of the seller, but if someone thinks the intent of the seller is to mislead one should avoid the auction and not bid.
Lesson is to read auctions carefully, ask all questions prior to auction ending, and only bid on what you want to win.
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Sometimes the "fine print" gets by even the best. That's why there are laws against the use of it (at least in the US.) There is no-one here who can say that they haven't seen something different the second or third time they read something and swore it wasn't there the first two times.
That simple fact is that humans are prone to error and if something is done to intentionally exacerbate this trait we all possess, as it is so often on eBay, I say offer nothing for the seller's "trouble". It's trouble they created by "setting the trap" in the first place.
So I guess I'm saying to read the auctions carefully as well. But if you do inadvertently fall prey to a poorly worded, or intentionally misleading listing, I would not hesitate to let the seller know just why the listing is misleading and that I would, under no uncertain terms, be rewarding him for his practices.
You have to understand that of the last 5 auctions I have won on eBay, only 1 of them came as described. And these were from people with good feedback. This says 2 things to me. The feedback system is "flawed". And these practices are rampant on eBay because of it. The only reason I still use it at all is that specialized manufacturing equipment can often be had for dimes on the dollar and are still a good deal, even if I need to fix them myself. Most of the sellers of these items seem to be more reputable, so thankfully I could see what I was getting into. It's the "fleamarketers" you need to be careful of.
RandyT
Banacek:
--- Quote from: divemaster127 on August 04, 2006, 09:35:19 am ---heres what you do, just email & state for whatever reason i cannot complete the transaction, can I pay for your ebay fees & what you feel is a reasonable sum for your trouble, plus neither of you has left feedback either so that gives each of you something to lean on...
dm
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I've done this myself I believe twice. It's the way to go in this situation. I know everyone hates Paypal, but they have not only protected me, but when I bought a car part and the warranty they offer, they refunded me the entire amount when I recieved it defective. I don't trust anyone that doesn't use it. AS for my situations, the seller was really understanding once I sent him the few bucks for the listing fee. It was worth it to me.
That being said I try my best to never use eBay. It's like you're just asking to be robbed there.
Raleigh:
--- Quote from: RandyT on August 04, 2006, 12:12:34 pm ---
--- Quote from: Raleigh on August 04, 2006, 11:45:11 am ---I am not disagreeing about the tactics, I am just saying that it seems all the information was available when he bid, if it seems misleading now it should have seemed misleading originally. I am not privy to the intent of the seller, but if someone thinks the intent of the seller is to mislead one should avoid the auction and not bid.
Lesson is to read auctions carefully, ask all questions prior to auction ending, and only bid on what you want to win.
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Sometimes the "fine print" gets by even the best. That's why there are laws against the use of it (at least in the US.) There is no-one here who can say that they haven't seen something different the second or third time they read something and swore it wasn't there the first two times.
That simple fact is that humans are prone to error and if something is done to intentionally exacerbate this trait we all possess, as it is so often on eBay, I say offer nothing for the seller's "trouble". It's trouble they created by "setting the trap" in the first place.
So I guess I'm saying to read the auctions carefully as well. But if you do inadvertently fall prey to a poorly worded, or intentionally misleading listing, I would not hesitate to let the seller know just why the listing is misleading and that I would, under no uncertain terms, be rewarding him for his practices.
You have to understand that of the last 5 auctions I have won on eBay, only 1 of them came as described. And these were from people with good feedback. This says 2 things to me. The feedback system is "flawed". And these practices are rampant on eBay because of it. The only reason I still use it at all is that specialized manufacturing equipment can often be had for dimes on the dollar and are still a good deal, even if I need to fix them myself. Most of the sellers of these items seem to be more reputable, so thankfully I could see what I was getting into. It's the "fleamarketers" you need to be careful of.
RandyT
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I guess it would help to see the auction and how it was stated as I am only going by what MYX is stating. I'm also not familiar with the item he purchased either so I don't know if they are easy to test and such.
My personal experience have been good in buying untested items on ebay, though I try and do as much research in the seller as well as reading and asking all I can. But I do avoid any such auction where the risk appears to out weigh the possible savings and rewards.
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