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PSX games that don't use analog stick...
« on: July 22, 2006, 10:53:21 am »
Is there a list of these somewhere? 

I have a cab I'm just now adding ePSXe to, and I don't want to have to go through and test the games to see if the analog stick is required.  I know you can use a digital stick for the analog stick, but this doesn't make for fun gameplay, so I'm trying to avoid that.

Maybe there is a list of PSX sidescrollers somewhere?  Any PSX lists would help :)

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Re: PSX games that don't use analog stick...
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2006, 04:00:34 pm »
Technically all of them.....  The dual shock was not standard issue for the playstation so all games had to also work with the d pad.   Of course this made for bad analog control for those with the dual shock as it usually had to be limited to the left stick and bad digital control for the classic pad owners giving sony fans the worst of both worlds.   

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This is why nearly every single ps1 game is crap. 3d games with digital controls.  Yeah that was a good idea sony, almost as good as a $600 gaming system.  Almost as good as a portable device that is capable of hi-res 3d graphics but doesn't have a proper means of analog control.  Almost as good as insisting that all companies that wrote for the original plystation make 3d games, resulting in some of the worst butcherings of beloved 2d franchises (contra 3d, mega man 3d ect...)   ;)

Ok I'm done. 


Anyway, because of some stupid directive about pushing 3d games nearly every single ps1 game is 3d and therefore plays horribly on arcade controls.  There are very few exceptions, so few that I can probably list them here.  There are the laserdisc ports of some unemulated daphne games (ninja hayate and time gal).  There is one decent 2d mega man game, I can't remember the name.  They also made a decent Castlevania 2d game and that's about it.  Any other 2d games on the psone already have their arcade counterparts emulated. 

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Re: PSX games that don't use analog stick...
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2006, 04:35:48 pm »
Howard, there are a lot of decaffinated brands on the market that taste nearly as good as the real thing.  ;D

Vulcan, here are the PSX games that live on my cab:

Castlevania: SOTN
Crash Bandicoot 1, 2, 3
Spyro 1, 2 , 3
Soul Edge
Tekken 2, 3 (no interest in 1)
Tempest X (this is a must-have)
Dead or Alive
Jumping Flash
Resident Evil 2
Wipeout 1, 2, 3

There are a few others but those are my favorites.

I was disappointed that I couldn't get Bushido Blade to work on mine--not enough buttons to cover both pairs of shoulder buttons, which are needed for those games and not re-mappable.

Soul Edge is the best fighter IMO

Tempest X alone makes the PSX emulator worth setting up.

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Re: PSX games that don't use analog stick...
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2006, 08:16:21 pm »
Howard, there are a lot of decaffinated brands on the market that taste nearly as good as the real thing.  ;D
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Technically all of them.....  The dual shock was not standard issue for the playstation so all games had to also work with the d pad.   Of course this made for bad analog control for those with the dual shock as it usually had to be limited to the left stick and bad digital control for the classic pad owners giving sony fans the worst of both worlds.  
Yeah, I know.  I agree to some extent about 3d games with digital controls, but there are some cases where it works decent.  Especially at the time it was released.  Most (if not all) 32-bit systems at the time were getting into 3d games and only had digital controls.  It had to happen, else we wouldn't have the analog controls now :)

Thanks for the list JCKnife.  So far on my cab I've got:

Castlevania Chronicles
Castlevania: SotN
Mega Man X4, X5, X6
Fanal Fantasy Tactics
Twisted Metal (all of em)
Resident Evil
Crash Bandicoot
Abe's Odysee

I think I'll be removing a few of them.  Namely, twisted metal isn't too much fun with digital control...it's too jerky.  I was just hoping I could avoid having to test the games on the cab, and remove if they weren't digital-friendly.  Looks like I'll have to compile my own list.

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Re: PSX games that don't use analog stick...
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2006, 12:01:48 am »
Howard, there are a lot of decaffinated brands on the market that taste nearly as good as the real thing.  ;D

Vulcan, here are the PSX games that live on my cab:

Castlevania: SOTN
Crash Bandicoot 1, 2, 3
Spyro 1, 2 , 3
Soul Edge
Tekken 2, 3 (no interest in 1)
Tempest X (this is a must-have)
Dead or Alive
Jumping Flash
Resident Evil 2
Wipeout 1, 2, 3

There are a few others but those are my favorites.

I was disappointed that I couldn't get Bushido Blade to work on mine--not enough buttons to cover both pairs of shoulder buttons, which are needed for those games and not re-mappable.

Soul Edge is the best fighter IMO

Tempest X alone makes the PSX emulator worth setting up.

Soul Edge, All the tekkens, doa and even a better version of tempest (tempest 2000) are all available on other emulators.  I'm rather frightened by anyone that admittedly enjoyed Crash or Spyro, it's kind of like admitting you liked the Bubsy series. 

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Re: PSX games that don't use analog stick...
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2006, 03:32:02 am »
Here are the ps1 games I play on my arcade:

Raiden Project  (Includes Raiden 2, which to my knowledge does not work in MAME, but my knowledge is really out of date)
Raiden DX (JPN)
Gradius Gaiden (JPN)
Raystorm
Ray Crisis
Thunder Force V
Einhander
R-Type Delta
G-Darius
Harmful Park (JPN)
Zanac X Zanac (JPN)

So uh...if you don't like shooters, you can probably pass on the ps1.  Also, I use a real ps1.  I have no idea how many of these work under an emulator.

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Re: PSX games that don't use analog stick...
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2006, 03:55:47 am »
Hey PSONE Junkies

I don't have any PSX roms so I can't test it with MaLa. 

Another user does though

Here:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=55977.msg549277#msg549277

My Question is:
What 'command line' to you use to launch a game on ePSXe from a command prompt?


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Re: PSX games that don't use analog stick...
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2006, 07:37:49 am »
Soul Edge, All the tekkens, doa and even a better version of tempest (tempest 2000) are all available on other emulators.  I'm rather frightened by anyone that admittedly enjoyed Crash or Spyro, it's kind of like admitting you liked the Bubsy series. 

I haven't yet had the time or patience to get ZINC controls working properly. Besides the PSX version of DOA is better than the arcade and Soul Edge arguably as well (with the weapon master mode, etc).

Tempest X is way better than Tempest 2000 on the Jaguar. Same game, additional powerups, better music, better graphics, more enemies...

Not a Bubsy fan. I actually haven't played the Spyros on my cab yet, but I'll stick up for Crash--good platforming.

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Re: PSX games that don't use analog stick...
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2006, 08:14:16 am »
My Question is:
What 'command line' to you use to launch a game on ePSXe from a command prompt?

c:\epsxe\epsxe.exe -nogui -loadbin "[rompath]\[name].[romext]"

Raiden Project  (Includes Raiden 2, which to my knowledge does not work in MAME, but my knowledge is really out of date)
Raiden DX (JPN)
Gradius Gaiden (JPN)
Raystorm
Ray Crisis
Thunder Force V
Einhander
R-Type Delta
G-Darius
Harmful Park (JPN)
Zanac X Zanac (JPN)

Awesome list TalkingOctopus.  I actually didn't know most of those were on the PS1.  Thanx mate.

Not a Bubsy fan. I actually haven't played the Spyros on my cab yet, but I'll stick up for Crash--good platforming.

I'll have to agree...I haven't palyed bubsy or spyros, but Crash is a decent game.

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Re: PSX games that don't use analog stick...
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2006, 04:32:37 pm »
If you have a access to a light gun, and can get it to run with it (No, I dosen
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Re: PSX games that don't use analog stick...
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2006, 06:10:13 pm »
My Question is:
What 'command line' to you use to launch a game on ePSXe from a command prompt?

c:\epsxe\epsxe.exe -nogui -loadbin "[rompath]\[name].[romext]"

Thanks   ;)

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Re: PSX games that don't use analog stick...
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2006, 08:09:52 pm »
If you have a access to a light gun, and can get it to run with it (No, I dosen

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Re: PSX games that don't use analog stick...
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2006, 12:05:15 am »
Here are the ps1 games I play on my arcade:

Raiden Project  (Includes Raiden 2, which to my knowledge does not work in MAME, but my knowledge is really out of date)
Raiden DX (JPN)
Gradius Gaiden (JPN)
Raystorm
Ray Crisis
Thunder Force V
Einhander
R-Type Delta
G-Darius
Harmful Park (JPN)
Zanac X Zanac (JPN)

So uh...if you don't like shooters, you can probably pass on the ps1.  Also, I use a real ps1.  I have no idea how many of these work under an emulator.

R-Type Delta and Einhander are MUST HAVE PSX games. (that is, if you like that sort of game :) )

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Re: PSX games that don't use analog stick...
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2006, 04:15:39 am »
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Re: PSX games that don't use analog stick...
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2006, 11:51:11 pm »

I've had trouble with those two.  I think it's because I don't rip my own discs, but regardless there's some kind of issue getting certain versions of those two games running on epsxe.  Light gun support is supposed to work well with the emulator though, so if you can get those two to run then I reccomend them myself. 

You might try PSX 1.7 http://psxemulator.gazaxian.com/

I have not checked compatability past "D" but it seems to be around 80% compatible.  No extra plug-ins or speed up slow down modes, it just works.  It does use software instead of hardware rendering and it seems very cab friendly.  I am currently using it to make the EmuMovies PS1 Set and I have been very happy with it.  It also uses a .cdz format which compresses your bin/cue or ccd/cue files which, on average reduced file sizes by 30%.
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