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MartyNg:

--- Quote from: tk_42_1 on July 13, 2006, 10:44:11 am ---It's gotta be a problem with the MB.  My main Arcade system right now is an old IBM T20 Thinkpad (PIII 733 Mhz, 256 Ram) running Mame .105/Latest Zsnes/Latest Fusion/Z26 with stripped down XP on it (Thank you WIKI!!!!) and it runs great at least for the older games

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Is that "Thank you WIKI" in response to the stripping down of XP by reading the BYOAC wiki? I searched through there and didn't see anything. How can I strip down XP? I forgot to mention that this needs to be hooked up to my wireless network, so from a hardware perspective, WinXP is probably beneficial.

DrewKaree:

--- Quote from: MartyNg on July 13, 2006, 05:26:05 pm ---
How can I strip down XP?


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arcadepcnut:

--- Quote from: pointdablame on July 13, 2006, 08:51:53 am ---
--- Quote from: arcadepcnut on July 12, 2006, 10:43:51 pm ---dont use the sblive...just get a cheap isa or pci soundblaster. Mame will be faster in dos on a 733mhz machine. I use a 900mhz p3 machine for my vertical classics cab and its weak....it doesnt play but 90% of the vertical games and Im running dos with an arcadevga card...would not even consider 98 on that machine.

But to each his own.

The geforce 3 wont help you much at all in mame....not win98 or dos....its the 2d mame uses....also your dont need dos drivers for a geforce...however the live would need dos drivers hence the recommendation to get another cheap card if you do decide to go with dos.

however windows 98 is easier to setup. If I recall the minimum requirement for XP is 700mhz. Basing off my experience with my P4 3.6 that barely runs XP well (haha)...that 700mhz would be unbearable.

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not to start a big debate here, but there's some bad info in here.

if you can't run vertical classics on your 900mhz P3 its because you are using too new a version of MAME, or you are doing something entirely wrong.  I've had XP and MAME .55 running on a 900mhz Athlon for over a year now and it works like a champ.

Also, tha 733mhz would be a good candidate for a stripped down install of XP if you can get some more ram into it.  128mb won't do it IMHO, not even with a stripped install.  If you jumped to 256, or hopefully 512, you'd be fine.  I've run stripped XP installs on ~600mhz machines and they work fine.

And I know the "cant run XP on my 3.6ghz is a joke, but just the fact that you make the joke tells me you're setup has some flaws or you just dislike Windows.  XP is a very good OS, and despite people's usually blind views toward the fact, it scales fairly well with some tweaking.

Just throwing out my .02 here so as not to make MartyNg think he's stuck with DOS only as a choice.  You can run XP on a system like that if you wanted, as long as you do some tweaking to the install.  98SE is also a good choice, and i'd personally go that route before I went the DOS route.

DOS MAME installs are not necessary for any computers over 500mhz IMHO.

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I personally refuse to run an OLD outdated version of mame just to be able to run XP on my machine which in my opinion gives you absolutely nothing over dos. I am telling him my experience with dos as I see it. He asked. I dont really care how well a stripped down XP runs for you. I update mame whenever a new version comes out because of more games and bug fixes. I would not be happy with windows XP stripped down and a pre 1.00 version of mame. if that floats your boat. I am also not happy with frameskipping. So all you dos haters cram it. I didnt say my machine wouldnt run CLASSICS! I said it would only run about 90% of all VERTICAL games...including raiden and others. So my machine performs very well for what it is....and its running dos. It would not perform that well with windows98 which I installed first and was not happy and went back to dos.
My joke with windows xp is not that my 3.6 cant run it...the joke was it doesnt perform as well as a unix machine for example or a 3.6 running windows 98SE. also my joke was intended to convey that windows XP should fly on a 3.6 but it doesnt cause its a bloated os. I upgraded from a 3.2 to a 3.6 and saw absolutely no difference. You can say that my 1 gig ram is not enough or there is another problem with my machine configuration....but here is my credentials. I have my MCSE and A+ compTIA certification so I know how to configure machines....my joke being that every os has needed more ram and bigger processors to do the same tasks.

So your saying my dos horizontal machine running a AMD XP 2200 is not necessary?!...but it runs killer instinct rather well and Im on the latest version of mame. I can safely say my two dos mame machines run better the way I have them configured with dos than windows98 or stripped XP. They are dedicated cabs....no need for a gui os in my opinion!

I was trying to help the guy out.  He can install whatever he chooses. When I said "definately dos" I should have added "I recommend dos"...so people dont get bent out of shape. In fact there has been many posts and I am the ONLY one suggesting he look at dos.

I was not trying to start an Xbox / ps2 is better type of war.

forget I said anything. Next time Im debating whether I should post an answer to help someone out with my opinion I'll keep it to myself. thank you for saving me some time.

RayB:
I too vote for DOS, but you could also get away with Windows Command Line version.

Just make sure it's version 0.78 or older. You get better performance going back to older versions.

Going through Windows will remove some sound configuration headaches, as well as mouse headaches. But let it be said my system specs are similar to yours (original poster):

1ghz AMD board
256 mb RAM
ArcadeVGA
SB Live

Booting straight to DOS
Running MAME 0.78 for everything but the Vector games (0.55 for those)

MartyNg:
Just wanted to say thanks to everyone. I value all of the opinions and didn't mean to start a battle. In time, I will probably try several different operating systems. This will tell me what I'm up against for pros and cons.

Perhaps I'll keep my eyes open for a cheap Mobo+CPU+processor combo. It looks like adding PC100 memory would almost cost as much as a new mobo+cpu+memory! Crazy!  :banghead:

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