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Suzo Inductive Joystick Switchable 4/8 way mod
TOK:
I have a set of these too, that I'm going to be using in a vertical shooter cab. Since there are also some good vertical 4 way games like Donkey Kong, I was interested in your project. I haven't even tried the Suzo's yet, but the thing that doesn't impress me with the "soft" switching between 4/8 way is that it does nothing to make the stick feel like a physically restricted 4 way.
The Happ sticks in my current cabinet are not easily switchable between the two modes since its an actual plastic restrictor, but when it is switched it feels like a different stick. Since I play mostly 8 way games, I just got used to using them in 8 way mode for 4 way games. I'm inclined to think I'd do the same with the Suzo's. I even bought a set of T-Stick +'s to have the ability to switch to a phsyical restrictor without a lot of hassle, but didn't care for the stiffness or short throws of the sticks.
A hybrid mechanical of the Happ Competition and the T Stick +'s external physical shifting would be ideal to me.
Level42:
--- Quote from: TOK on May 28, 2006, 10:05:04 am ---I have a set of these too, that I'm going to be using in a vertical shooter cab. Since there are also some good vertical 4 way games like Donkey Kong, I was interested in your project. I haven't even tried the Suzo's yet, but the thing that doesn't impress me with the "soft" switching between 4/8 way is that it does nothing to make the stick feel like a physically restricted 4 way.
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Mmm, well that's not due to my 'project' but due to the way the stick is, isn't it ? Say, you put this stick in a Ms.Pac Man cab, then you'd have to turn the potmeter to a true 4 way setting. But indeed, there will never be a mechanical restriction this way. That's what you have to accept. It's always a compromise. A compromise I can live with. If you play a game, I rarely hit diagonals on a 4 way game, just because it's not the nature of the game to do it. But it does happen every once in a while (tired/beer), so it's nice that when you DO hit a diagonal, the stick is not sending that to your I-pac, or whatever you use to interface it.
Actualy, I've used these sticks for quite some time in a pot setting where I was pretty well able to play both 4 AND 8 way games. Not perfect, but it was playable. I only wanted to make that extra step of NOT having Ms.Pac Man doing something I didn't intend here to do (move the wrong direction that is....). And I've reached that goal.
To let 4-way games play and feel like the original, you need a dedicated 4 way stick. I don't have the room on that on my (furture) CP so I will live with this. Or you need something like the Omni-stik Prodigy http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65&products_id=195
but I personaly don't like a microswitch stick (even though it's a Suzo) and I don't like the look of it either.....
TOK:
Level42... I didn't mean to infer it was a shortcoming of your project, just a shortcoming of a "soft" 4/8 way switch with no mechanical restrictor. I'll try the Suzo's on some 4 way games when I get a chance, and if they feel that much better than 8 way, I'll definitely try your mod.
Grasshopper:
--- Quote from: Level42 on May 25, 2006, 05:01:14 pm ---Damn. And Suzo Headquarters here in Holland has only about 25 left, but those are the 32 mm handle version, only suitable for cocktails IMHO.
I think I'm gonna order an extra set...for.......I don't know what for....maybe my new vertical only cab, or or or my vector cab or or....just for keeps ! ;)
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If you do buy some more from TNT Amusements make sure you ask for them to be posted by letter post. By default Todd uses parcel post which for some reason is more expensive. I only paid $18 to have three shipped to the UK.
Level42:
Thanks Grashopper,
I previously ordered one with them and it cost me $14,- to get it here, so that sounds like about the same when you add two more. It's memorial day in the US now, so I will get my answer tomorrow. Thanks for the heads-up ! Even with the postage that single one was still cheaper then the one (very last one on stock) I got "around the corner" directly from Suzo !
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