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Fozzy The Bear:

--- Quote from: sWampy on April 14, 2006, 09:15:39 am ---Why would you wnat to be forced to stand back 6 feet to play a game that was designed to be played with the gun 6" from the screen though? 

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Mine work fine at 4 feet back from the screen... on a 21" monitor.... They'll go even closer when I get my new high power LED stands built.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

aljupy:

--- Quote from: Fozzy The Bear on April 14, 2006, 09:59:28 am ---
--- Quote from: sWampy on April 14, 2006, 09:15:39 am ---Why would you wnat to be forced to stand back 6 feet to play a game that was designed to be played with the gun 6" from the screen though? 

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Mine work fine at 4 feet back from the screen... on a 21" monitor.... They'll go even closer when I get my new high power LED stands built.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

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Again, totally agree with Fozzy.
It is not a Pain (At least, for me) to play from 6".  Even you can imagine some trick to put you closer (Maybe puttin the bars closer)....If not, a more powered IR Leds should do the trick.
EMS are going to sell a "brighter" IR Led bars.

On a side note....For LightGun games....do not you think that is better to play from some  distance? It gives also a good point.
In my case, I play exactly from 3 METERS (I do not know it in feets) with my 34" Inch (I do not know it in meters  ;D ) Television.

Anyway, Swampy you are totally Right.......If the distance (about 3 meters for a 34" TV) Is a Downside, go to an expensive Act Labs or Go to a "I need Flash Guncon2". That will be the right way.

aljupy:
Hello Again:

If we think....it seems we have a big problem with each LightGun.

1-Act Labs: Expensive, poor compatibility (Just Pc), Can not Track.

2-Guncon2: Needs "Flashing screen" or White/light colors to good tracking and accuracy.

3-LCD TOP GUN: Distance is a Downside for much people.

Just Choose the one that suits your need.  :D And you

sWampy:

--- Quote from: aljupy on April 14, 2006, 12:34:39 pm ---
--- Quote from: Fozzy The Bear on April 14, 2006, 09:59:28 am ---
--- Quote from: sWampy on April 14, 2006, 09:15:39 am ---Why would you wnat to be forced to stand back 6 feet to play a game that was designed to be played with the gun 6" from the screen though? 

--- End quote ---

Mine work fine at 4 feet back from the screen... on a 21" monitor.... They'll go even closer when I get my new high power LED stands built.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

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Again, totally agree with Fozzy.
It is not a Pain (At least, for me) to play from 6".  Even you can imagine some trick to put you closer (Maybe puttin the bars closer)....If not, a more powered IR Leds should do the trick.
EMS are going to sell a "brighter" IR Led bars.

On a side note....For LightGun games....do not you think that is better to play from some  distance? It gives also a good point.
In my case, I play exactly from 3 METERS (I do not know it in feets) with my 34" Inch (I do not know it in meters  ;D ) Television.

Anyway, Swampy you are totally Right.......If the distance (about 3 meters for a 34" TV) Is a Downside, go to an expensive Act Labs or Go to a "I need Flash Guncon2". That will be the right way.


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Well I plan to have both.   LCDtopgun for games like mad dog mccrae where you normally stood a good distance from the screen, and guncon2's  for games like crossbow where you stood right up at the screen.    Reports seem to indicate that they track just fine without flash if you use the gama  tweak in the smog driver.   

I don't think brighter leds will make the guns work closer to the stands, they are for making it work farther back.  To make the guns work closer you need to move the leds closer together or put a wide angle lens on the gun.   The leds sitting in the middle of your screen isn't a good solution, and  I bet some software would have to be changed to make the guns work with a wideangle lens.   The reason you have to be farther back isn't that the leds aren't bright enough, it's that the camera in the gun has to see all 5 sets at the same time to work correctly.  When you get closer to the screen, it can only see 4 or less leds and stops tracking. 

aljupy:

--- Quote ---Well I plan to have both.   LCDtopgun for games like mad dog mccrae where you normally stood a good distance from the screen, and guncon2's  for games like crossbow where you stood right up at the screen
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That could be the Best point..... :cheers: To have Both. This way you can play far (with Topgun) and very close (with guncon)  :applaud:
--- Quote ---Reports seem to indicate that they track just fine without flash if you use the gama  tweak in the smog driver.  
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I do not Know if I understood very well, but I have played with a Guncon2 in a PC and in my Ps2, The Screen Flash (or "gamma flashing") Helps a LOT....but it just HELPS, if you want to hear my opinion, a LCD TOP GUN is more accurate IMHO.

--- Quote ---I don't think brighter leds will make the guns work closer to the stands, they are for making it work farther back
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You are Right, I´m agree with you. But ....what about to putting the bar Leds "pointing to the gun"? In my case, it works.
I have noticed also, that putting the Bar LEDS higher than my TV I can go closer to the TV.  :cheers:



REGARDS



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