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prettiest front end?
Howard_Casto:
Funny you should mention that.... I looked at it and noticed that some of the data for dk and a few others is inaccurate. I wanted to go in and correct, but my login won't work over on the wiki. I'm waiting for someone to look into it.
)p(:
--- Quote from: tspeirs on April 03, 2006, 06:11:06 am ---I think we'd all be better contributing our time to the Wiki rather than offering our own experience (which is often huge, I dont disagree) in threads such as this, but when we are all playing nice, I don't mind :)
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Has it not be like that anymore these days? I dont follow the byoac boards as closely as I used too. But one of the great things while working on my fe has always bene the feedback of fellow developers. For example Howard and I go a long way back. I am probably the one besides himself that knows his fe's the best from long hours of testing them :) And vice versa..I remember when I got the multi user arcades working...i msn'ed Howard and we met for the first time in the virtual arcade...I had made a pacman avatar...then hc made a ghost...and we started chasing each other around...it ended up dressing up with cabinets as avatars instead...i still can see me chasing that donkey kong cabinet...great fun! 8)
peter
headkaze:
--- Quote from: )p( on March 29, 2006, 04:10:29 pm ---
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on March 26, 2006, 02:04:54 am ---
I will completely agree with you about it being the users fault though. You can't be expected to make a buttload of skins and write the dang thing as well. I suggest your users get busy and quit doing the whole "mamewah skinning" thing (namely take the default skin, change it ever so slightly and try to sell it off as a brand new skin.) I've had a similar problem with dk over the past few years, that's why you only see my skins on the download page. :)
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Problem is with more complex skinning it really becomes very difficult to make a nice gui for the average user. A good example is the c64 skin for 3darcade that uses cylarcade mode to animate a row of diskettes etc. Just look at this video how it works...
It will be really difficult to design good gui's for this kind of skins. This will be a big challenge for the next generation fe's...not me anymore ;)
peter
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Looks like Microsoft has stolen your C64 GUI and put it into Vista!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aTdTdTELZj4
TOK:
--- Quote from: headkaze on April 04, 2006, 07:59:56 pm ---
Looks like Microsoft has stolen your C64 GUI and put it into Vista!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aTdTdTELZj4
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Isn't it kind of ironic to be using that to play 15 to 25 year old games?
I got a chance to try the Vista beta, and I can tell you why it got pushed back... It's a huge kludge at the moment. It'll take about 4 minutes to boot on the typical cab spec here (1.5 to 2ghz machine with 512meg of RAM), and those fancy 3D features won't work on the majority of video cards guys are running right now.
I feel XP with a bunch of Services disabled is going to be the primary cab OS for the next 4 years or so. One of the cool things about this hobby is that you can spend a lot of money on other hardware, yet still use a spare/cheap PC to run it all.
All I want in a front end is something that I can shell right into, disguises Windows as much as possible (I used a separate app to skin XP), and has selectable text size. Ideally, it would have an external setup tool that gave you MAME32 style checkboxes and simple text areas to setup directories and not be shown when the front end itself is run. MameWah with the setup program is kind of in that ballpark, but just not as polished.
Love the discussion and appreciate all the work you guys are doing. Perhaps I'm just a simpleton and not the norm here, but a fast boot time and quick, easily read menus so that getting to the games doesn't take more skill than playing them is pretty to me. ;)
)p(:
--- Quote from: headkaze on April 04, 2006, 07:59:56 pm ---
--- Quote from: )p( on March 29, 2006, 04:10:29 pm ---
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on March 26, 2006, 02:04:54 am ---
I will completely agree with you about it being the users fault though. You can't be expected to make a buttload of skins and write the dang thing as well. I suggest your users get busy and quit doing the whole "mamewah skinning" thing (namely take the default skin, change it ever so slightly and try to sell it off as a brand new skin.) I've had a similar problem with dk over the past few years, that's why you only see my skins on the download page. :)
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Problem is with more complex skinning it really becomes very difficult to make a nice gui for the average user. A good example is the c64 skin for 3darcade that uses cylarcade mode to animate a row of diskettes etc. Just look at this video how it works...
It will be really difficult to design good gui's for this kind of skins. This will be a big challenge for the next generation fe's...not me anymore ;)
peter
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Looks like Microsoft has stolen your C64 GUI and put it into Vista!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aTdTdTELZj4
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Hehe ;D
I still have no clue why anybody will want to upgrade to vista. There isnt really anything you can do with it you cant already do with xp. And it will have drm protections etc. everywhere which most likely will cause compatibility havoc all over the place...eeks...
peter
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