O'Reilly on Letterman

[Kabrewskee]

Did anyone else catch it?  The most uncomfortable interview since Magnum P.I. was on on Rosie O'Donnell in the 90's.  I'm glad that Letterman stood up for everyone who has ever wanted to spit in Bill O'Reilly's mishaped face.

Plus, it was right off the heels of Howard Stern's dominant performance on the O'Reilly Factor.

[Santoro]

I saw the transcript. It was indeed awkward. 

[AllisterFiend]

Did anyone else catch it?  The most uncomfortable interview since Magnum P.I. was on on Rosie O'Donnell in the 90's.  I'm glad that Letterman stood up for everyone who has ever wanted to spit in Bill O'Reilly's mishaped face.

Plus, it was right off the heels of Howard Stern's dominant performance on the O'Reilly Factor.

I can't believe people still watch letterman, he has not been funny for years.

As far as the interview goes, I also read the transcript, and I'm glad I was not watching, it seemed like the whole situation would have been very uncomfortable.

P.S.  I thought the stern interview on O'Reilly was pretty good, I did not think Howard Stern over powered anyone, Howard was being Howard and O'Reilly was being O'Reilly.

Allister Fiend

P.S.S. Nice first post, now contribute to the cause and help someone! 

[quarterback]

Did anyone else catch it?  The most uncomfortable interview since Magnum P.I. was on on Rosie O'Donnell in the 90's.  I'm glad that Letterman stood up for everyone who has ever wanted to spit in Bill O'Reilly's mishaped face.

Plus, it was right off the heels of Howard Stern's dominant performance on the O'Reilly Factor.

I saw it all go down and detected some tension from the point that Letterman first mentioned that O'Reilly was going to be on that night. 

And at the end of the show Letterman said he wanted to thank "most" of his guests.

[versapak]

http://www.jimgilliam.com/2004/10/bill_oreilly_on_letterman_video.php


This is what the topic is about?


If so, then I don't get it. It didn't seem that akward to me, and I really didn't sense any tension.

Is that video just a small clip, before such tension and akwardness showed?

[Kabrewskee]

http://www.youtube.com/watch.php?v=Iix923o9lkU

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/01/04.html#a6571

[Santoro]

 Letterman telling O'Reilly "60% of what you say is crap" isn't awkward?

[versapak]

Letterman telling O'Reilly "60% of what you say is crap" isn't awkward?

Trouble reading much?

Is that video just a small clip, before such tension and akwardness showed?

[gavkiwi]

meh, very tuff interview to watch. God I hate Bill O'Reilly and FOX news. what a pompus ass. In saying that, Dave hasnt been funny in a LONG time, since atleast 96/97 imho.

Gav.

[JackTucky]

Did anyone else catch it?  The most uncomfortable interview since Magnum P.I. was on on Rosie O'Donnell in the 90's.  I'm glad that Letterman stood up for everyone who has ever wanted to spit in Bill O'Reilly's mishaped face.

Plus, it was right off the heels of Howard Stern's dominant performance on the O'Reilly Factor.

Hello new mrc, er, kabrewskee.

Art

[versapak]

Watched the whole interview this time, and still didn't see what I would call "awkwardness".

It was interesting, but both Letterman & O'Reilly seemed to be comfortably themselves in the interview.

[BurningDog]

Let me preface this by saying that I absolutely hate O'Reilly.

However, Dave was the one who came out looking like a dick on this one.  If you invite somebody into an entertainment show, you shouldn't ambush them with this kind of crap.  If you're going to ambush them anyway, at least do it effectively, saying " I CAN'T BACK IT UP, BUT YOU'RE A LIAR!!!" is just stupid and tampering with a guest's drink is just childish.

[markrvp]

Not as uncomfortable as the Rosie O'Donnell/Tom Selleck interview.  At least O'Reilly knows what to expect when he goes on these shows.  Selleck never saw it coming (Rosie O'Donnell is not one of my favorites).

However, Letterman seems to get all his knowledge of O'Reilly from the New York Times which is always slamming Fox News.  I think Letterman was a little bit out of line with his attack when you find out he has NO personal knowledge of anything he was talking about.

[DrewKaree]

What IS your SINGLE other post besides this?

At least the folks who believe as you do have posted something worthwhile before jumping into the political arena.

Change your name to "exhibit A"

[Nailz]

Not a big fan of O'Reilly's, but Letterman is no longer funny.  The fact that he was trying to rip on BOR without ever seeing a show is pathetic.  How much is Letterman making?  Can't he do a little homework?  What a tool....

[Kabrewskee]

DrewKaree.

Letterman and O'Reilly = politics?  Also, I didn't know there were rules in this forum to what can and can't be posted at different phases in my forum career, if there are i never got the nerd-mail.

[DrewKaree]

You're expecting us to believe this somehow ISN'T something political?

You're a bigger idiot than I first thought you were, and a coward to boot now that you're trying to throw up your hands and say "who, me?  "

At least sack up and be honest about your views like most of the folks who talk politics here. 

There's no rules for your "timeline", just a hint of "try to add to the community before you try to divide it" that should exist.  If you don't get it, people point it out for you.  Search for TA Pilot.  Anyone who had disparaging comments for HIM should have the exact same things about YOU.

Go troll somewhere else.

[Kabrewskee]

DrewKaree,

If this was supposed to be political, I (who started the thread) would have made the thread political. This thread was intended to get an idea of what people thought about the encounter between David Letterman and Bill O'Reilly. It doesn't get any simpler than that, although it seems that even the simplest conversations and intentions cause confusing dilemmas for you. Your confusion has come out as fustration directed toward me.

When people watch a boxing match, they don't ask what political beliefs either side has, they talk about who fought better.

That being said, not every debate is made to divide. A person who thinks as you do would obviously come into this thread and hurl nonsensical insults toward me without adding anything to the discussion. You are the one who needs to learn how to add to a community before dividing it. Also, I promise you that I will never and have never needed anything pointed out to me by the likes of you.

It is very strange to me that you (obviously a buffoon) know my intentions better than I (a genius) do. You have no footing in this argument. I said nothing about my politics; All i did was imply that I hate Bill O'Reilly. In fact, I talked about Howard Stern, a libertarian, with high praise.

As for the rest of your post, I am going to be honest and say I don't understand it. You speak in a weird dialect of nerd-lingo that I have only heard about in mythology. TA Pilot? Troll somewhere else? All I get from that jargon is, "My name is DrewKaree, and I am a nerd," in repeat.

[AllisterFiend]

DrewKaree,

If this was supposed to be political, I (who started the thread) would have made the thread political. This thread was intended to get an idea of what people thought about the encounter between David Letterman and Bill Reilly. It doesn't get any simpler than that, although it seems that even the simplest conversations and intentions cause confusing dilemmas for you. Your confusion has come out as frustration directed toward me.

When people watch a boxing match, they don't ask what political beliefs either side has, they talk about who fought better.

That being said, not every debate is made to divide. A person who thinks as you do would obviously come into this thread and hurl nonsensical insults toward me without adding anything to the discussion. You are the one who needs to learn how to add to a community before dividing it. Also, I promise you that I will never and have never needed anything pointed out to me by the likes of you.

It is very strange to me that you (obviously a buffoon) know my intentions better than I (a genius) do. You have no footing in this argument. I said nothing about my politics; All i did was imply that I hate Bill Reilly. In fact, I talked about Howard Stern, a libertarian, with high praise.

As for the rest of your post, I am going to be honest and say I don't understand it. You speak in a weird dialect of nerd-lingo that I have only heard about in mythology. TA Pilot? Troll somewhere else? All I get from that jargon is, "My name is DrewKaree, and I am a nerd," in repeat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch.php?v=Iix923o9lkU

Well, I just watched the video and will say it was not as awkward as it sounded when I read the transcript.  I thought Bill did a good job as usual when dealing with the typical hollywood types.  I've also lost what little respect I still had for Dave as he is the one who made this into a political interview (It was obvious from the beginning of the interview that he had an agenda and was going to get it out), He had no facts at all, just repeats what he hears in his circle of friends (hollywood friends).

Anyway, it was a setup and a bad one at that, very sad on lettermans part.  Shows his true character.


P.S. Drew, Kabrewskee has no first post, it only shows one post because he posted this topic in the wrong forum  , can not find it now, must have been removed.

        Kabrewskee, honesty is respected here, this was definitely a political post.


Allister Fiend

[Kabrewskee]

Allister Fiend,

Once again, I can't state it more simply or clearly; This topic is as political as YOU make it.  I have no political intentions, I could have easily named a topic "I hate Moderate America" if I wanted to be political.  As proof, I challenge you to assert my political affiliation from any of my posts. 

Also, as I said to DrewKaree, I never received any information regarding these unspoken "laws of the morlocks" that you two use (and enforce) for this forum.  Should we chalk that up to a clerical error or is this something that I overlooked when signing up on this forum?

Yes, I called you a morlock.

I posted my topic in the first place I saw and moved it when I was told to.  To be honest with you I feel relieved every time I break one of these rules because it means I am still within reach of normal society.  Since you are person concerned with respect, I would like to ask you if you would classify DrewKaree's actions (intentionally insulting me without adding anything to the discussion) in this thread as respectable toward me?


Back to the topic:

Look, all this talk about losing respect for Letterman is insane.  True, he is not as funny as he once was, but that does not mean that he doesn't deserve respect.  Also, I can't imagine any host of any talk show (daytime or late night) on basic cable doing what he did.  Certainly not Leno and (dare I say) probably not Conan. 

Even if Letterman wasn't informed (which I doubt he isn't), he still shared his personal opinion during that interview which is a big risk, especially in this day and age.  I think O'Reilly came off as the instigator by bringing up the war on christmas.  Letterman on the other hand showed some heart by saying what he believed (something that I have come to doubt with O'Reilly and his opinions).  I believe that Letterman didn't start spewing out "facts" and "sources" because he didn't want to be labeled as an airbag to people who dispute his ideology (even though Bill O'Reilly is way worse).  He just said his opinions, and made a point to say that they were just his beliefs.

Bottom line, Letterman can only lose his ratings by expressing his politics on the air and O'Reilly can only maintain ratings by defending his opinions.  Letterman laying out his opinion is very respectable.

I think the video of the interview shows how awkward things got, O'Reilly is bouncing his leg and Letterman is biting his lip all the way through the exchange (I think, i've only seen it once).

[versapak]

I do believe we need a post count rule for EE like we do for B/S/T.

Controversy from those we know and "respect" (lol) is much more acceptable, than from some 1st timer. These are still the BYOAC boards, and there should be some attempt to join that community, before one goes to post in purgatory.

[JackTucky]

It sickens me that Letterman will go at a guest hard because he's some "conservative commentator", yet he'll get some hollywood scumbag on there who left his first family (or 2nd or 3rd), been in and out of rehab, and then made a movie about puppy dogs, and letterman will fawn all over them.

Post some Letterman interviews of Woody Allen, or Madonna, or Drew Barrymore.  He loves them.  They've done more drugs and married more children than Bill O'Reilly combined.

Now, phone sex, that might be another thing.

kebrewskee, what's a keywiz?

Art

[ChadTower]

What happened with Selleck and O'Donnell?

[markrvp]

What happened with Selleck and O'Donnell?

Tom Selleck is a member of NRA.  Not a militant calling for arming children, mind you - just a member of NRA as every responsible hunter is (because NRA sponsors the gun and hunter safety courses that are required to get a hunting license).   Well he comes out to talk about a movie or TV show or something that has nothing to do with guns.  O'Donnell goes on a tear against guns and how the NRA is horrible and Selleck is too for being associated with them.  Selleck was very nice, but O'Donnell showed NO CLASS.

[Harry Potter]

I've watched o'riellllty on Fox in Aus and he's a tool.

zMy 2 cents (calculated with interest)

[Grasshopper]

I thought it was pretty tame and superficial. You guys should come to Britain and hear some real political debates.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/vote_2005/frontpage/4465679.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/vote_2005/frontpage/4482341.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/2732979.stm

This next one isn't really a debate as such, but it's still worth watching for a laugh.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/vote_2005/blog/4519553.stm

[ClubNinja]

O'Donnell showed NO CLASS.

Can't show what you don't have.

[JackTucky]

I like the indian? parliament.  Fisticuffs!  Sweet!

Art

[shmokes]

The Selleck O'donnel thing was totally ---smurfy---!  O'donnel invited him on the show under false pretenses (to talk about his new show) and attacked him.  O'donnel is a ---smurfette---.

Letterman invited Bill O'Reilly to his show and talked politics.  Bill O'Reilly is a political commentator.  That's ALL HE DOES.  What the hell else are they going to talk about?  His new movie?  The first words out of O'Reilly's mouth made it clear that he wanted to talk about his War on Christmas bit.  How do you have a political pundit as a guest on your show without "turning it political"?  It's not like O'Reilly didn't know they would talk politics, and it's not like he doesn't know that Letterman is a liberal?  Do you seriously think that the interview was anything other than what O'Reilly or Letterman expected?

[DrewKaree]

Letterman invited Bill O'Reilly to his show and talked politics.  Bill O'Reilly is a political commentator.  That's ALL HE DOES.  What the hell else are they going to talk about?  His new movie?  The first words out of O'Reilly's mouth made it clear that he wanted to talk about his War on Christmas bit.  How do you have a political pundit as a guest on your show without "turning it political"?  It's not like O'Reilly didn't know they would talk politics, and it's not like he doesn't know that Letterman is a liberal?  Do you seriously think that the interview was anything other than what O'Reilly or Letterman expected?

I for one refuse to believe anything you say, since clearly, as has been demonstrated, that whole exchange was about everything BUT politics, and to comment on it as something political is just so wrong-headed as to be something of a something something and/or other.



AAAAACCCCKKKKKK!  SOMEONE THROW FOOD AT 'EM BEFORE THEY EAT MY FOOT!

[mr.Curmudgeon]

73.5% of what you say is crap!   




mrC

[DrewKaree]

73.5% of what you say is crap!   

mrC

147% of your statistics are made up on the spot, whereas 384% of my 73.5%, while crap, is unassailably right.  This makes you 219% positive you want to be like me, or at the very least, want to suck my left big toe.

I am a brazilian percent correct on this, and have numerous links to prove it.

 

[Kabrewskee]

"I for one refuse to believe anything you say, since clearly, as has been demonstrated, that whole exchange was about everything BUT politics, and to comment on it as something political is just so wrong-headed as to be something of a something something and/or other.



AAAAACCCCKKKKKK!

[shmokes]

Bill O'Reilly is a "Hollywood scumbag."
 

Heh...that's a good point.

[DrewKaree]

So there I was wondering what I was gonna do with my night.  I started with trying to find that thing about the jammer again, which just wasn't seeming to work.  Isn't it frustrating when you can't find a link again that you didn't have time to save as a bookmarks?  SONOFAGUN that sucks! 

Anyhoo, I was starting in on that, and was getting bored.  Luckily for me, National Geographic has some show on about bears, but what was so odd to me at first was when I hit that channel, there's a Park Ranger talking about a Great White.  I was like "FTW! SHARKS!"

I think I'm gonna try putting some more work into upping my project to the share-a-project site.  Luckily, after losing THAT bookmark in the forced migration to XP, I was able to remember something about fiberglassing a CP and found that guy's link. 

It sucks, because I've been putting off installing Photoshop, but daily it seems like I've gotta end the procrastinating for the good of progress.  Meh.  Mebbe this is what Mission felt like when he finally decided to start on his cab.

Hey, mark, you were talking about a Golden Tee you rigged up.  I'ma guess you've got the highlip for that.  I was checking it out at Happ's site today, and it looks like it's ~ 2.5" from the plate to the base.  Is that about correct?  What I'm actually wondering about is if that's correct, or if there's stuff hanging below/underneath that, because I figure with a ³/₄" CP top, I should have about that much room left for clearance between the inside of my CP base and the bottom of the trackball.

Someone tell me too, the Golden Tee ball lists for $54 on Happ's site.  Is that right, or is that just for the assembly and plate?  I can't really decide just yet if I wanna go with that one or with the smaller 2 ¹/₄".  If anyone's played Golden Tee with the smaller trackball, let me know how it feels.  It seems like that size trackball sits lower than would be comfortable, and I'd like to verify that.

[Kremmit]

Gabby Johnson is right!

[Kabrewskee]

Gabby Johnson is right!

Hehehehehehehe!  Funniest moment of the week, right here.

[markrvp]

Hey, mark, you were talking about a Golden Tee you rigged up.

[DrewKaree]

Also, if Happ has something for $54 then it IS NOT a complete trackball.  The cheapest price on a Happ 3" HighLip trackball with arcade harness (6 pin) is around $61 from the guys in B/S/T.  Buy that, the mounting plate, and one of RandyT's new Opti-Wiz devices to hook it to the USB port on your motherboard.

I'm assuming since I've seen 'em sold separately that this doesn't include the mounting plate, but check this out

http://www.happcontrols.com/trackballs/56010011.htm

I read and re-read the thing and danged if that doesn't look like the whole nine yards there, but they don't talk about the mounting plate, nor do they show it where you'd think - with additional items. 

I'm routing out a temporary CP tomorrow and gonna pick up a piece of that pink insulation sheet to do mockups and I'm gonna be trying to save space for the trackball, but I won't be putting it on there until I get to my permanent CP so I wanted to hammer some of this stuff out before that point.

The trackball will be set up with its prime purpose being for Golden Tee and Tiger Woods, so there won't be anything but a straight shot from front to back for it.  Good to know on the underside - I'm guessing all the fiddly bits come from the sides. 

[JackTucky]

Thanks for the info Markrvp and Drew.  I was wondering about my control panel.  Maybe if we delete all of the original posters inane comments, we can move this to the main forum.

Art