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Leaf spring switches...where'd they go?
Level42:
Don't think that's what he meant....a microswitch needs a certain amount of pressure to "trip" and make contact. A leaf switch does not have this. I think he meant this with "digital". To me, this is one of the two reasons why leafs are the only way to go. The other is the irritating click, I've hated it ever since I played games.
I still have my trusty FIRST version of my HOME Suzo Competition Pro joystick which I bought for my Atari 2600 way back in 1983. This has leafs for everything. Sadly, Suzo later changed to microswitches.
By the way, despite that I STILL use this stick today AND the leafs are less quality then the true arcade leafs, I've never had to clean or adjust the them.
The rate at which you can fire with a leaf is never matched by a microswitch.
Jabba:
--- Quote from: Level42 on December 21, 2005, 01:12:13 pm ---I think he meant this with "digital".
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Thats what I meant. Its all about the "feel" for me, and I hate the clickity clackity Micro switches.
--- Quote from: Level42 on December 21, 2005, 01:12:13 pm ---The rate at which you can fire with a leaf is never matched by a microswitch.
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Absolutely true. Arcades in my days never had micro switches and that ---smurfy--- clickity clakity cheap feel these MS buttons have.
Jabba:
Hey Level 42, you said you could get these switches. How much per item are they quoting you? I'd be interested in going in on a larger order if the price was right and shipping was decent...
erictrumpet:
--- Quote from: Level42 on December 21, 2005, 01:12:13 pm ---The rate at which you can fire with a leaf is never matched by a microswitch.
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Is that why I completely suck ass at Track & Field (I have microswitches currently)? If so, that is a major point in favor of leafs. Even using the "run like hell" dip switch cheat, I barely make it beyond the hurdles. If it's because of the micros, color me a leaf convert!!
Okay so now that we've discussed the pros and cons, where can I buy leaf buttons, 4-way leaf sticks, and 8-way leaf sticks? And do the buttons/sticks come with the leafs or must one acquire those separately and "install" them? Also can someone post pics of leaf switch gear, since I a total leaf newbie.
And don't tell me to search the forums, I'm sure searching on "leaf switch" will return 10,000 results, the best of which is probably this thread anyway. :)
Eric.
MaximRecoil:
--- Quote from: erictrumpet on December 21, 2005, 04:28:24 pm ---
--- Quote from: Level42 on December 21, 2005, 01:12:13 pm ---The rate at which you can fire with a leaf is never matched by a microswitch.
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Is that why I completely suck ass at Track & Field (I have microswitches currently)? If so, that is a major point in favor of leafs. Even using the "run like hell" dip switch cheat, I barely make it beyond the hurdles. If it's because of the micros, color me a leaf convert!!
Okay so now that we've discussed the pros and cons, where can I buy leaf buttons, 4-way leaf sticks, and 8-way leaf sticks? And do the buttons/sticks come with the leafs or must one acquire those separately and "install" them? Also can someone post pics of leaf switch gear, since I a total leaf newbie.
And don't tell me to search the forums, I'm sure searching on "leaf switch" will return 10,000 results, the best of which is probably this thread anyway. :)
Eric.
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That doesn't even make sense. The rate at which you can fire is determined by how fast you can tap a button. The minimal resistances we are talking about with leaf springs and microswitches are not enough to slow down the speed at which you can press the button to any measurable degree, or even, at all. Of course, once the switch is closed, the signal is sent to the board at the speed of light regardless of the type of switch.
It may seem faster with one or the other but I think scientific tests would show otherwise. I don't see anyone being able to move fast enough to "outrun" a microswitch. It reminds me of the old claim that you can fire a double action revolver faster than you can an automatic pistol because you have to wait for the slide to cycle in the pistol before you can fire another shot, while the speed of the action in the revolver is determined by how fast you pull the trigger. In reality though, no human is fast enough to outrun the slide of an automatic.
If people were fast enough to outrun a microswitch, people could also outrun a leaf switch, you just need to be faster than a spring.
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