France

[jbox]

Exactly why we need STRICT campaign finance reform in this country.

Um, because that solves the problem of sound-bite politics how exactly? 

[DrewKaree]

Exactly why we need STRICT campaign finance reform in this country.

Um, because that solves the problem of sound-bite politics how exactly?

I don't think he got your earlier point. 

[jbox]

Exactly why we need STRICT campaign finance reform in this country.

Um, because that solves the problem of sound-bite politics how exactly?

I don't think he got your earlier point. 

So, QED right? 

[DrewKaree]

Exactly why we need STRICT campaign finance reform in this country.

Um, because that solves the problem of sound-bite politics how exactly?

I don't think he got your earlier point. 

So, QED right? 

I think that went over the heads of 99% of the people here.....and yes

[mr.Curmudgeon]

Exactly why we need STRICT campaign finance reform in this country.

Um, because that solves the problem of sound-bite politics how exactly? 

I..don't know. Misunderstood your point. I was addressing your statement "swayed by advertising", and the out-of-control 527's came to mind.

mrC

[mccoy178]

My major problem with the French is their attitude towards us for most of the 20th century and all of the 21st century so far.  A great example outside of was is the fact they were the only major country not to go along with the gold standard that saved the world economy.  Who the hell does that?  They give off the perception that there crap don't stink everytime a situation arrises, but it does just like their cheese.  They don't owe me personally for anything Chad, but I won't stand for bashing America at every waking moment.  Blind patriotism, maybe, but that is one of the rights I am afforded being a US citizen. 

I believe the disefranchisement of the poor has everything to do in lack of faith in the system.  Every last politician is a kiss ass.  I know there are too many sides pulling at them for decisions, but for Christs sake, there has to be some rich ---daisies--- out there who don't care about patting others on the back and want to do the right thing.  That is what I'm waiting for.  I don't blame the poor.  A punk ass tax cut is not gonna do it for someone barely making it.  That's what child tax credits are for. 

I feel what is needed is a policy change in the role of government in our society.  Everyone knows that the government is needed and not going anywhere soon, but what about a rejuvenation of the New Deal?  Why not put the poorest of Americans on a voluntary work plan to clean up our cities and make a change in how the lower class is viewed.  We do it for farmers.  Why the hell do half the people who get medicaid and welfare get it in the first place?  Because there is nothing useful for them to do in society.  Go clean a damn street and you can get your vicodin.  I believe it would take a policy change to motivate a majority of the population.  I don't see any other way to do that unless the government goes bankrupt through natural disaster of some other unforseen malady(pandemic, etc...).

We have not had hard times in a loooooooong time, and it is so very obvious.  Yes, there are people who need the government support, but there are sooooo many that made poor decisions through one avenue or another, and somehow they get a fifty year hall pass.  MrC, as a Republican, I think that it is crap if you stick up for that portion of the poor and disadvantaged and you should move to Canada with me because your fight is as helpful as the Republicans neglect of them when considering the overall problem of the American society.  We can ---smurfette--- back and forth, but I honestly believe a moderate solution to the issue is what will have to happen.  This political whining back and forth is useless, although it does waste some time.

America's Poor - You can't live with'em and you can't live without'em(well not legally)

[Bones]

Your country is in a mess. I can help.

Vote #1 Bones

[jbox]

Blind patriotism, maybe, but that is one of the rights I am afforded being a US citizen. 

Damn straight those cheese-sniffers shouldn't try to be better than anyone else. Only American citizens have the right to rag on other countries, the rest of us are simply 'unlawful complaintants'. 

[mccoy178]

lol, I'm just saying I have the right to do it.  Hopefully you do to!

[ChadTower]

The point the French are trying to make, up until very recently when their outward politics changed, was very effective and simple:

We don't like you, stay out, and we got no beef.

The problem now is that they seem to want to be a world power, and to do that, they have to be geopolitically active.  They have yet to learn that you cannot go around the whole world telling everyone how much they suck when you have nothing to back up your words.

[mccoy178]

I agree Chad, but they have been trying to do their own thing during times that was not possible.  When has that ever been possible in the 20th century?  It reminds of those backwoods patriots that are anti government, yet still use all the resources available to sustain life and continue their plite.

[ChadTower]

No one ever really goes self sustaining.  Can't do that in a modern world.

[Stingray]

Your country is in a mess. I can help.

Vote #1 Bones

Other than this post, the rest of this thread still sucks. I'm voting for Bones next time.

-S

[fredster]

Damn straight those cheese-sniffers shouldn't try to be better than anyone else. Only American citizens have the right to rag on other countries, the rest of us are simply 'unlawful complaintants'.

Never stopped you did it?

Do you guys think this unrest in France is driven by (choose any or all of the following):

a) the muslims won't assimulate into society
b) The french won't let them assimulate into society
c) They have no "society" now that they are socialists
d) Poor people are complaining to the "rich"
e) They all need arcade games to calm down

[Grasshopper]

My major problem with the French is their attitude towards us for most of the 20th century and all of the 21st century so far.  A great example outside of was is the fact they were the only major country not to go along with the gold standard that saved the world economy.  Who the hell does that?  They give off the perception that there crap don't stink everytime a situation arrises, but it does just like their cheese.  They don't owe me personally for anything Chad, but I won't stand for bashing America at every waking moment.  Blind patriotism, maybe, but that is one of the rights I am afforded being a US citizen. 

Yeah, those damn surrender monkeys. Always giving the international community the finger. I mean what a nerve - refusing to sign up to the Kyoto treaty, imposing illegal tariffs on imported steel whilst lecturing other countries about the importance of free trade, invading other countries on the basis of bogus intelligence and against the clear wishes of the UN, sucking up to and selling arms to repressive regimes (*cough*Saudi Arabia*cough*) in order to get a cheap supply of oil, riding roughshod over the Geneva convention......

Oh wait a minute. Wrong country. 

[mccoy178]

I would like to reiterate "blind patriotism".  I'll worry about us in the five hundred other threads, this thread is about France's punk butt.  I know we have issues, but they are in the spotlight at the moment.

[fredster]

No, you had the right one Grasshopper.

France invaded south africa last year, they haven't met all of the kyoto protocols, (kyoto didn't even sign kyoto though), all of the long range missles that violated Saddam's treaty were from France. 

Yep, you had the right one the first time. 

[patrickl]

We have a french au-pair in our house. Her parents are vietnamese (so she looks foreign although she was born in France), but she basically fled from France because it's virtually impossible to get accepted as a "foreigner" there.

Because of this disdain for "foreigners", a large chunk of the french population has just about zero chance of a good life. I can imagine they get pretty frustrated. It's the same frustration you see for instance in the US in LA among the black population

[mr.Curmudgeon]

Do you guys think this unrest in France is driven by (choose any or all of the following):

a) the muslims won't assimulate into society
b) The french won't let them assimulate into society
c) They have no "society" now that they are socialists
d) Poor people are complaining to the "rich"
e) They all need arcade games to calm down

Here's the solution I came up with: (click to zoom)




(I spent WAY too much time on this joke!)
mrC

[Zero_Hour]

Do you guys think this unrest in France is driven by (choose any or all of the following):

a) the muslims won't assimulate into society
b) The french won't let them assimulate into society
c) They have no "society" now that they are socialists
d) Poor people are complaining to the "rich"
e) They all need arcade games to calm down

Here's the solution I came up with: (click to zoom)




(I spent WAY too much time on this joke!)
mrC

I hear that pulling off the "Trapped In A Box / Walls Closing in on You" combo is worth some serious points in that game.

[mr.Curmudgeon]

You get an extra life for "pulling invisible rope"...too.

[DrewKaree]

You get an extra life for "pulling invisible rope"...too.

Your game is over instantly if you do the "pulling visible pud"

It's not listed in the instructions, but Bones told me he pissed away $54,000 trying to figure out how to win.  He finally figured that penalty out when someone asked him a question and he stepped away from the game and DIDN'T die almost instantly.

[DrewKaree]

A little reminder of what happened last time the appeasement route was tried

[patrickl]

A little reminder of what happened last time the appeasement route was tried

Was that the last time? I  though it was this one:

[Grasshopper]

Oh, I thought the appeasement process was ongoing.

They make a nice couple don't you think.

[ChadTower]

Matching suits!

[mr.Curmudgeon]

http:// www.glennbeck.com/picoftheday/11-08-05-pod.jpg

Marching orders again, Drew?


*yawn*

mrC

[DrewKaree]

Marching orders again, Drew?

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=45763.msg437242#msg437242

It's sad.  It really is.  For someone who views himself as "gathering information from many sources", you must seriously believe you're the ONLY one.  I'm sure the stereotype of you posting madly at The DailyKOS is as accurate as yours is of mine   Hey, btw, did you get to be part of the "eff the conservative radio station host contest" too, or were you not part of that committee?

If I thought you were honest enough to give him a listen, I'd send you some audio of him agreeing with you on some of your opinions, in direct contradiction to what you obviously perceive MY views to be....well, you view them to be HIS views as well, but why start bothering with facts at this point in the dance?

[jbox]

Hey, btw, did you get to be part of the "eff the conservative radio station host contest" too, or were you not part of that committee?

Did the subcommittee memorandum on reprioritising the enumerable action items for success acquisition have a TPS coversheet attached? 

[patrickl]

Drew,

You are really starting to sound depressed and paranoid (more than usual anyway). Whats up man?

I was wondering when you posted a picture of Hitler in a thread about riots, but you seem to be going downhill from there.

[Dartful Dodger]

I just saw this bumper sticker on an old pickup truck.

"France?  Let it burn."

[patrickl]

I just saw this bumper sticker on an old pickup truck.

"France?

[DrewKaree]

Drew,

You are really starting to sound depressed and paranoid (more than usual anyway). Whats up man?

I was wondering when you posted a picture of Hitler in a thread about riots, but you seem to be going downhill from there.

Nah.  Not enough hours in my day at this time of year, plus I added a project I'm trying to get workable before Thanksgiving.

I figured I'd add a visual version to the whole "Godwin" thing.