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pointdablame:
No offense to you, but you seem to have already made up your mind, so just buy the parts you found and try them.  If you are happy with them, and don't have complaints.... who really cares?  You only have to please yourself.  You don't seem like you're going to be convinced of anything different, so just give them a shot.  It can't hurt to try them.

Me personally, I've used the Wico knockoff joysticks and HATED them. They feel awkward, play awkward, and just don't play as well IMHO.  X-Arcade buttons are ok, but the micros are noisy.  If you don't care about that noise, they'll be fine for you. 

If you haven't used ANY arcade parts before, you'll probably like anything that you have.  Its when you try out the "real" parts or "better" parts that you notice differences, and even then it's still subjective.  The fact is, some (not all) of these knockoffs actually play poorly... missing contacts or breaking sooner than other parts.  On the flip side though, some are decent replicas of the "real thing" and work just fine.

Personally, I find it very silly to skimp on the few parts of your cabinet that you actually interact with, especially with such a small price gap.  You quoted X-arcade joys at $8, which are Super knock-offs... but you can get REAL Supers for $1 more.  You can get buttons for .90 with what I'd assume to be a very noisy micro, but you can get a real Happ button with a good cherry switch for .45 more.

Work the numbers on a 2player setup and you'll pay an extra $2 for joysticks and an extra $6.30 for buttons (assuming two 7-button layouts).  Is getting possible crappy parts worth a savings of $8.30 to you?  As someone said, if you are worried about such a small difference in price, get out of this hobby... run.... and run quick :)   This hobby like to eat money very quickly  ;D

Ninja Supremacist:
Pointdablame,

Actually, I can be convinced quite easily.  I just don't respond to bogeyman tactics like "it's evil" without further explanation.  $0.45 is quite serious unless you don't care about gas prices either.  To say I risk noise and shabby construction is valid with evidence.  To talk about "feeling" is not a very scientific explanation.  To follow a feeling comment with "why don't you just leave?" is absurd and immature.

I am going to follow Craig's suggestion and provide a full report on the components from dreamarcade when they are installed.  Maybe if I said that, you'd refrain from your emotional nonsense.  My apologies.

pointdablame:

--- Quote from: Ninja Supremacist on September 03, 2005, 12:13:03 pm ---Pointdablame,

Actually, I can be convinced quite easily. I just don't respond to bogeyman tactics like "it's evil" without further explanation. $0.45 is quite serious unless you don't care about gas prices either. To say I risk noise and shabby construction is valid with evidence. To talk about "feeling" is not a very scientific explanation. To follow a feeling comment with "why don't you just leave?" is absurd and immature.

I am going to follow Craig's suggestion and provide a full report on the components from dreamarcade when they are installed. Maybe if I said that, you'd refrain from your emotional nonsense. My apologies.

--- End quote ---

I guess you didn't catch the "no offense" part.  I was really trying to help.

I just don't see how a $10 difference in parts is enough to risk failure or unhappiness.  As I said, you could very easily be happy with these parts.  But if you're not... you'll have to buy something else... thus making your expenditures more than if you had gotten other parts to begin with.

My 'why don't you leave' was also a total joke... you'll not the smiley emoticons.  It's just a simple fact that these cabs can easily become a money pit.  It's part of the fun actually... "hey I NEED that thing... oh and THAT too :) "

And as for your gas price metaphor.. I dont' really follow you.  You'll be buying 14 buttons ONCE for a control panel.  You have to continually buy gas which is why .45 is a serious difference in gas prices... but not for buttons.   ???

I also didn't only talk about "feel."  I said that I USED a wico knockoff and compared to the original it missed contacts and was actually not as mechanically sound as an original.  I also agreed with you in saying that even after all fo that, it is subjective... so why are you jumping down my throat?

Yikes... some people just take the internet too damn serious.  You try to help and then you're told you're immature and spitting "emotional nonsense"


And the funny part of this is: Re read my post and spystyle's..... we're actually giving you the SAME EXACT recommendations.

Ninja Supremacist:
Point taken.  I surrender.  I was concerned that you were taking this a little too seriously.

I want to do a tricked out all translucent button panel with some effects.  It would be nice if the high price was offset by an easier purchasing experience.

These dreamarcade guys made the buying easy.  No waiting days for some shadow to show up and take my order, no obnoxious attitude on technical questions and no problems at all.  I pointed out a price discrepancy on volume prices for a certain item and they changed it in minutes.  I'd pay Happ prices for someone friendly and knowledgeable on the other end.  That's why I scour this board for information.  I'm not posting many questions because a LOT of answers are here.

I ended up spending triple what I requested from a major seller here that hasn't taken my business.  For the next two months, he won't be able to.  I still want translucent buttons so it's likely that I'll be able to deal with him or somebody if I get contacted.

Anyway, I'm glad we're clear. 

DreamArcades:
We sell high quality pushbuttons for as low as 89 cents each (when you buy 10). They are nearly identical to Hap's. I know a lot of reader here buy them.  Maybe someone who has can post what they think of them?

We also sell the cheaper integrated pushbuttons for as log as 65 cents each.
I sell a lot of the integrated buttons. They don't have the same feel as the external ones, but they do the job.
-Mike

http://www.dreamarcades.com/partsbuttons/index.shtml

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