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TOK:

--- Quote from: JoyMonkey on September 02, 2005, 09:59:22 pm ---
--- Quote from: TOK on September 02, 2005, 09:32:26 pm ---My sticks arrived today. They are the longer 38mm handle. If anyone else is getting them, the part number is 29-0208-3 for the longer sticks.
The same part number, but ending in -2 is the 32mm handle.

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AFAIK, the 32mm and 38mm refers to the diameter of the balltop, not the length of the stick.

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Indeed. Thanks for the correction.
I'm happy to report I have big balls.  ;D

Level42:
Lucky you ;) I have small balls (on the inductives of course). Indeed the 32/38 mm thing refers to the ball size, but the handle is also longer on the 38 mm (at least, when I compare them to my "regular" Suzo 500's).

So the feeling of throw on the 32 mm will even be shorter if you think the 38 already has a short throw...checking on monday if I can get the 38's still....Think it should be possible to replace the handles between the two. Maybe Suzo has some spare handles....?

I think the 32's were maybe targetted at cocktails ? They would be good on those I guess...

Still didn't have time to test the 4/8 way pot-meter :( Hopefully tomorrow.
Also didn't dare to remove the PCB, what do you guys think how it is mounted and can it be removed safely ? This also would make moving the pot-meter to the CP a lot easier, but it's still very possible from the top of course...

O and let me know how you connected the wires to the molex....I didn't have a proper tool for it so I carefully used a screwdriver, I know that's not the "right" way but didn't see another solution...
I didn't cut my wires (yet ?) but instead made a seperate "harness" with male connectors that fit to the regular microswitch terminals. I think they should have included a set like that with the joystick, or at least sell it seperatly since this makes converting a cab with these sticks a lot easier and would probably have made it more accepted with operators...from what I know from Suzo, it's not exactly a very populer item on their catalogue. The 38 is being phased out...and my guess is there will be no new 32's either especialy after the Happ merger....

JCL:
Any new hacking on these?

How important is it to get the pot just right? Is fully one way 4-way and fully the other 8-way or is more tweaking needed?

It looks like that unsoldering the pot would be difficult, but I think it would be easy (from the pics) to solder in to the pot. By selecting a proper resistor in parallel, one should be able to use a switch+ resistor to switch between 4 and 8 way.

I think I've talked myself into buying a pair (of the joysticks, of course).

Level42:
Haha, don't think you'll regret. Sorry, no no time yet...neither tomorrow, will give it a try tuesday and report. I think the pot should be turned either full way to go "completely"into 4 or 8 way. Maybe, there's a setting that will be usable for both...(halfway ?)  I left it in the position it came in (about 60% towards 8 ) and although possible to play DK and Pac Man, I did make occasional mistakes.

I think it will be quite possible to solder out the pot from the top (see pic) and move it to the CP. The alternative is what you say, simply a switch and a fixed resistor (or this pot in the max. setting) to select total 4 or 8 way....

More later....

JoyMonkey:
Replacing the pot with a switch sounds like a good idea; it could then be controled easily by software through the parallel port. I haven't gotten mine yet (should have them tomorrow) and I'm not sure when I'll get a chance to play around with them.
It would be nice to be able to link the pots on two joysticks together, so you'd only have to turn one knob/push one button to switch both joysticks between 4 and 8 way.

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