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Tiger-Heli:

--- Quote from: jjd on June 21, 2005, 12:19:54 am ---I'm actually on vacation, so I do't have access to the unit.  But I do remember that the labels on the P-2 side were slightly different after button 8.  There was a button 9, but I'm not certain of the rest. 

I'll post more when I get home in another week.

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Thanks!

monkeybomb:
I'm all for testing but If the KB16 doesn't work, how could the KB32?  Is there even a possibility if it uses the same method and matrix?

Tiger-Heli:

--- Quote from: monkeybomb on June 21, 2005, 11:08:32 am ---I'm all for testing but If the KB16 doesn't work, how could the KB32?  Is there even a possibility if it uses the same method and matrix?

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Jjd said it doesn't work - well at least not as advertised.  It has some advantages over the KB16 (but it doesn't even compare with a KeyWiz Eco), but I want to know how the inputs are labelled so I can make some educated guesses to help any IMHO poor souls who were unfortunate enough to buy one.

richms:
At least with it ghosting, you can solve it with diodes, whereas the keyboard hack with the blocking in it to prevent ghost keys will not allow you to fix it with diodes.

I think my major issue this gear is with his handling of the acusations and outrigth lying about the product. If it just shipped with 16 diodes and said connect these inline with one wire of the switch for correct operation, I doubt anyone would really have posted anything negative about the encoder.

Tiger-Heli:

--- Quote from: richms on June 22, 2005, 03:50:53 am ---At least with it ghosting, you can solve it with diodes, whereas the keyboard hack with the blocking in it to prevent ghost keys will not allow you to fix it with diodes.

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True.

It's kindof a double-edged sword, though.

Without diodes, the KB32 allows 16 inputs without ghosting, and 16 other inputs that will ghost.  With a keyboard hack, you can (usually) find 16 non-ghosting inputs, and the remaining 88 keys will be available for admin function.  And the blocking actually helps you here, because you don't have to worry about a keycode accidentally activating Escape.

--- Quote ---I think my major issue this gear is with his handling of the acusations and outrigth lying about the product. If it just shipped with 16 diodes and said connect these inline with one wire of the switch for correct operation, I doubt anyone would really have posted anything negative about the encoder.

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Well - even if it shipped with diodes, it's still a less functional unit than the KeyWiz Eco or the I-PAC VE, for a similar to higher price point.  But I agree, the deceptive (to say the least) marketing of the product is its biggest drawback, IMHO.

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