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Is Foley really the devil..?? (Previously: RetroBlast is a traitor..??)

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SirPoonga:

--- Quote from: Tiger-Heli on June 13, 2005, 01:44:18 pm ---
--- Quote from: SirPoonga on June 13, 2005, 01:37:10 pm ---Now your point of not having them on the keywiz because they take up inputs is moot.  Now that you have the stealth shift thing you still have more inputs than most people need.  So what stops you from adding the support?

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I don't think you fully understand the stealth-shift thing.  If you want to use all 32-inputs for gaming, then stealth-shift can be used for admin buttons.  You can't just decide to use 28 inputs and stealth-shift for an additional four action keys.

Maybe we need to get into this in the rebuttal thread.

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You are right, I don;t understand it based on one of your comments

"It should also be mentioned that with the use of Stealth-shifted buttons, support for four player four button games with Coin and Start buttons is a real possibility, something that can't be done with an I-PAC/2.   Four-player 3-buttons games with Pause and Escape and shifted inputs for Coin and Start are also easily accomplished.  The I-PAC/2 can at best work with 27 inputs as a 4-player 2-button (27 useable) inputs controller (with restrictions below)."

I did the math incorrectly.  I stand corrected :)

SirPoonga:

--- Quote from: RandyT on June 13, 2005, 01:43:22 pm ---No, to the user.  Read the post again and then tell me where you intend to find the much coveted Atari buttons.  Would you like me to post the ~$90 auction for an otherwise bare and beaten Centipede panel?

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Different topic, but still off topic, I will respond though.
May not be on there at this moment but I got my two silver volcanos for $5 each.  And I see old unknown atari control panels go for $20 and you get a couple of volcanos and joysticks :)
You just have to be patient and have a watchful eye.  Not everything you want is on ebay at this moment.
I picked up a single black volcano for $2 from a local vendor.

if you look hard enough and not take the first thing you find you cna find volcanos for cheap, well, relativaly cheap condirering there is that one site that sells them for $15.

Same applies to LS30s.  I picked up one LS30 for $10.

ChadTower:

--- Quote from: RandyT on June 13, 2005, 01:28:58 pm ---That's fine.
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SirPoonga:

--- Quote from: ChadTower on June 13, 2005, 02:17:11 pm ---I have a box of them.  They can be had reasonably if you wait long enough for the right deals.  Anything in this hobby can be had for a fairly reasonable price if you're willing to wait on it.  It's the gotta have it now now now attitude that makes things cost too much.

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As with most things.  If you want it now it tends to cost more:)

Anyway, back on topic.  I would review an ultracade if someone gave me one.  After the review I might hand it over to someone a little more sinister than me to disasseble it to see how it ticks :)
Actually, I'd probably keep the cabinet, put new artwork on it since I don't like ultracade's 3D anime style, and put my 1942 board in there.

Heh, and I just got a couple of for "free".  Granted they are never being removed from the control panel but I am now an owner of an asteroids that was given to me (with a non-working monitor :( )

I got my leafs for "free" too.  They came on my double dragon II cabinet.  They just need a new shaft.  However they are going to stay on the cabinet too when I fix it up.  I'm having issues with finding artwork.  I found a guy who has some, but since he didn't want to send me pics so I could verify if he had the white cpo and not the tan one I gave up on him.

RandyT:

--- Quote from: SirPoonga on June 13, 2005, 01:37:10 pm ---I talk with the people around here regularly.  i know you do to which makes me wonder why your opinion varies so much.

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That's because everyone isn't the same and don't have the same ideas or ideals.  I have people contact me asking why you hammer on me and my products incessantly, but others don't see it that way.  Everyone is going to have a different take on things, be it RetroBlast, Foley, Retroblast or RandyT :)  I think it's got something to do with that "diversity" thing people keep talking about.


--- Quote ---Heh, you have pretty biased info, so how is that "less"?

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The interested party gets to see not only your side, but my side, as well as all the other sides out there and become educated.  If they just listen to you, they just get your side.


--- Quote ---I hardly see you in the chat.  Most of the people chat in the evenings.

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I'm a fairly busy guy and I pop in once in a while using the guest account from the board.  If nobody is home, which is most of the time, I'll leave without signing in.  No fun chatting with yourself :)


--- Quote ---My point was I have been in this community for a long time. and talk with many people regularly.  Even outside of the forum.

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Great! You don't think you are the only one that can say that, do you?  "This community" extends well beyond "this website", and even so, I have a few years under my belt here as well.


--- Quote ---There's three types of gamers here, in general.  There's those who play the classics (anything before 1990 basically), those who play early-mid 90s games, and those who play the more modern games.
Most everyone in the classics section will want to replicate the blinking lights because most of the games in that era are atari.  it's that simple.

--- Quote ---When you are ready to back this up with some numbers, be sure to post back.  By my count, the assertion you just made about pre-1990's games is bizarre at best.

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Lest's see your count then?

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You made the assertion, so I believe the onus is upon you to provide documentation for your statement once it has been called into question.  But in any case, if you think Atari was the "majority" holder of titles pre-1990, I think you are just loopy :)


--- Quote ---if you hung around in this community you'd get that feeling.  If I can get HowardC in here he'd tell you the same thing.  I belong to the classics group, he belongs to the early-mid 90s.

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I know HC and you see eye-to-eye on a lot of things.  It doesn't  mean that you are representative of a group of people.


--- Quote ---It's like if they comeout with identical PC lightguns, but one has recoil, which one do you think people will prefer?  While recoil doesn't add to gameplay it adds to the experience.

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Funny, I always thought that clunky plasticky soundling recoil had more cheese than Wisconsin, but I've fired real .45's.  I'd like mine without, please, especially if I have to pay more for it.


--- Quote ---I supported my view with fact.  A large percentage of the pre 1990 games are atari.  Most of those have LEDs.  People seek the volcano buttons often around here.

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Actually it's not fact until you offer some sort of documenting evidence.  It's still pretty much "wild supposition" in my book.


--- Quote ---I didn't want to bring your products into this, I just wanted it a discussion about the ideas, but since you make a keyboard encoder...

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You always bring my products into question, every possible chance you get.  You do it so often, I can't believe you just wrote that :)


--- Quote ---Now your point of not having them on the keywiz because they take up inputs is moot.  Now that you have the stealth shift thing you still have more inputs than most people need.  So what stops you from adding the support?

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You also never have a problem talking about my products regardless of the fact that you have never even held one in your hands.  Please tell me what it is that qualifies you to make statements, like the one above, when you obviously don't even understand how they work?  Do you think that needing to build a circuit to support high-output LED's is "good thing"?  Or maybe that it's worth an extra $15 or more on top of your encoder purchase so you don't need to?   Wasn't it you who had a burned out input on your encoder because of the LED you used (my apologies if it wasn't, but ...)? 


--- Quote ---We have opposite ideas.  That's the problem between us.  But as you see by other replies there are other people with simular opinions to me.  i hope you see that and take advantage of it.

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SirP, I know you think that everything that is important revolves around the microcosm you seem to be attempting to maintain here, but it just isn't so.  There are thousands of good, smart, hard-working folks we are proud to have been able to call "happy customers" over the past couple of years, a good number who come back again and again.  This is the yardstick I have to measure things by, not annonymous condemning voices whose motives you can't know.


RandyT

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