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MAMEDev's pull auctions without MAME
ChadTower:
--- Quote from: AlanS17 on June 08, 2005, 02:56:11 pm ---Well they've always worked on it for the sake of being able to use it. It wasn't until other people started making money that they started getting upset.
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Unless you have spoken with them and this exact point came up, it is not possible to say at what point they started becoming concerned.
NiN^_^NiN:
wait....if they don't own the rights to mame yet then they are doing the same thing as foley was doing???
or have i misread it? ::)
Lilwolf:
actually, most of the mame devs don't actually play games. Especially since the debug mode is much slower. But after testing, most of them don't have times to play games.
--- Quote from: AlanS17 on June 08, 2005, 02:56:11 pm ---Well they've always worked on it for the sake of being able to use it. It wasn't until other people started making money that they started getting upset.
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There is another point to this. They haven't really been accepting submissions from outsiders. Ask a few around here who have made submissions in the past. Most don't make it... Not matter how simple. I think it just wasn't really worth Hazes time to clean up the code for each submission... And if you only have time to add Aarons latest and someone you've never heard of's dip switch fix.... I think you can guess where the time goes.
--- Quote from: AlanS17 on June 08, 2005, 02:56:11 pm ---I don't think they're concerned with a lack of support from casual users. That should be expected, unfortunately. Most casual users don't have the knowledge or means to help, anyways.
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Tiger-Heli:
--- Quote from: NiN^_^NiN on June 09, 2005, 02:17:10 am ---wait....if they don't own the rights to mame yet then they are doing the same thing as foley was doing???
or have i misread it? ::)
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You misread it. Foley did not have a legitimate claim to the trademark, but was claiming it to shut competition down. That is a felony.
MAMEdev does have a legitimate claim to the trademark, but has not gotten it approved yet (applicant, not registrant). That is okay.
Although IANAL, and I guess MAMEdev could be in pretty big trouble for their actions if the trademark is rejected.
Haze:
--- Quote from: paigeoliver on June 08, 2005, 12:58:52 pm ---I never bought the "documentation" story either. It is a complete retcon. At the beginning Mame was just like every other emulator, it was for playing games, and no one (including the Nicola) was saying anything different.
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--- Quote from: paigeoliver on June 08, 2005, 12:58:52 pm ---I personally throw my vote in for simply dissolving further Mame development altogether. The classic games have been emulated perfectly for years. All that ever gets added anymore is late model stuff (and the occassional bootleg 1984 piece of garbage)
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Ok... If it was about the games then /why/ do we keep going, if, as you rightfully state all the classic games have already been emulated?
This gamers attitude is the exact opposite of those working on MAME.
Free Porn? I'm pretty sure I can find better images searching with Google than you're going to find in any of these games anyway.
If it was only about playing the games we would have all quit a long long time ago.
We work on this for free, we've been kicked around for a long time, people seeming to think they have a god given right to have exactly what they want emulated exactly how they want it emulated and be allowed to do whatever they feel with that emulator. I'm quite fed up with it, there is a point where a hobby isn't fun anymore, and thanks to the actions of others not even worth continuing with. We haven't got to that point yet, but the fuss people are kicking up because of a simple request not to use the MAME name is quite astounding.
Its amazing how many people rip MAME to pieces, yet nobody seems willing to take up the task of writing a new emulator from scratch to do things the way THEY think they should be done, or even taking one of the other dead emulators and putting some new life in that.
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