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MAMEdev is Pulling Auctions!
paigeoliver:
The hypocrisy of this situation amazes me. I actually went to the trouble of emailing ebay because I thought Ultracade was behind this hijinks.
I am sick and tired of all the hypocrisy in the official positions.
Pot calling kettle. Pot calling kettle.
You're black!!!
KevSteele:
--- Quote from: quarterback on June 02, 2005, 03:50:42 pm ---
"MAME cabinet" implies something that "compatible with MAME(tm)" (or "Encoder for MAME") does not.
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I'd disagree with this, at least from my perspective - to me "MAME cabinet" and "Compatible with MAME" or "Can be used with MAME" are the same.
Of course, I have no idea if anyone else reads it the same way, but I still fail to see the damage being done to the MAME project by these cabs if they're not selling MAME or ROMs with the cab, and I fail to see how a "MAME encoder" is somehow making people think that it's an "Officially Endorsed Product of the MAME Gods (tm)"
Kevin
Thenasty:
--- Quote from: KevSteele on June 02, 2005, 02:03:17 pm ---I'm really beginning to wonder what the terms of the "agreement" between David Foley and the MAMEdevs was...
Kevin
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Maybe the agreement was " I (D.Foley) will not trademark the MAME word and I'll let you (Nicola,A.Giles.,etc) trademark it that you must help me take down any selling/auction that contains the MAME word in the subject ?
AlanS17:
Someone could see "MAME cabinet" and think "MAME brand cabinet". If something is listed as merely compatible then it's only associated to the product, not the product itself.
Back to the floormat example. If someone was selling "Ford floormats" you wouldn't be expecting floormats that fit your truck. You'd be expecting floormats made by Ford for your truck.
SirPoonga:
--- Quote from: quarterback on June 02, 2005, 03:50:42 pm ---
--- Quote from: KevSteele on June 02, 2005, 02:18:00 pm ---But pulling an auction with no warning just because someone says "Encoder for MAME" or "MAME cabinet" is over the line, IMHO.
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I agree that there seems to be some overreaching here as far at any use of the word MAME at all, but I would NOT put the phrases "MAME cabinet" and "Encoder for MAME" (or more specifically "compatible with MAME") in the same category.
"MAME cabinet" implies something that "compatible with MAME(tm)" (or "Encoder for MAME") does not. Which is why (I presume) they will allow you to say "compatible with MAME(tm)" but you are not allowed to just haphazardly include the word "MAME" in your acution title. They want to ensure that there is no implied association or formal connection, and I can understand that desire.
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I don't see anything wrong with the letter.
First, mame doesn't want to be commercial except for a few specific cases like hanaho.
If oyu read what the letter says you can use mame in the description once. They would probably be fine with a description that said something like "works well with emulators such as MAME, Zinc, Nebula".
They don't want it in the title because that can imply the product is for mame (only) which there really is no product just for mame that can't be used with other emulators.
Now, your title could say "Cabinet for arcade emulation".
They just don't want you using their name to sell your product.
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