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Haze:

--- Quote from: Chris on June 06, 2005, 02:57:55 pm ---
--- Quote from: Tiger-Heli on June 06, 2005, 02:47:52 pm ---I only vaguely remember the issue, but I think that's your answer.  Tengen wasn't in trouble for reverse engineering, but for selling games based on the reverse engineering.  MAME really isn't selling anything (although providing the same things free of charge would be the same thing, so MAME's not out of the soup).

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The DMCA makes the reverse engineering itself illegal now.  I'm not sure how that applies to projects that started before the DMCA became law, or the work that's gone on outsde the US.

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recent exemptions made reverse engineering obsolete hardware legal.  while you could argue to mars and back what represents obsolete hardware the majority of the supported titles in MAME are no longer being sold by the original manufacturer.

this is the change that many misinterpeted as making all old software (roms etc.) perfectly legal to download, it isn't, what it does appear to clear up however is the emulation of protected titles (eg all the work that was done on the Sega S16 hardware recently; fantastic work too I may add, making 'suicide' arcade boards  should be a criminal offense, we're yet to find some of the older ones in working condition because the batteries are all dead and they can't be emulated until we do)

Chris:

--- Quote from: Haze on June 06, 2005, 03:46:56 pm ---making 'suicide' arcade boards
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Haze:
Needless to say, as already observed, for the most part MAME has been left around, if any requests have been made to not include something we've respected those.

In the past MAME will have had little to no impact on actual arcade sales, but with an increasing number of people building and selling MAME cabs which can be operated for profit (and people hacking up the emulator to emulate games which are still being sold as new) the situation is changing somewhat.

Some may credit the continued interest in classic gaming to emulation, or that the popularity of emulators indicates there is still a market for such games, Arcade manufaturers have also noticed this, hence the rereleases on updated hardware.  Again this makes cabinets playing those games a more serious threat to the profits of the manufactuers.  (As pointed out by DF / Ultracade)

Anyway, it should be quite obvious that MAME was never intended as a project to take income away from the actual arcade manufacturers and that we need to try out best to make sure MAME is not being abused in that way.  MAME and emulation in general has become too popular, and thus too widely abused for its own good (and as previously stated we'd be quite happy if everybody just switched to something else and left us alone)

Shape D.:
I understand pulling off auctions for people intentionally using the MAME name to sell a product. but are these being pulled as well?

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Crazy Cooter:

--- Quote from: Chris on June 06, 2005, 02:37:26 pm ---So I can see why the MAMEDevs want to go after infringers strongly.
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