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Chris:
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--- Quote from: Chris on June 03, 2005, 09:41:12 am ---No, we don't. They want to document games; we want to play them in an arcade style environment. They don't care about our community; they don't even like our community, because it makes them look bad.
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Nice of you to speak on their behalf, but I think I'll wait to hear a mamedevs opinion rather than have you give it for them ::)
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Here's part of Aaron's post on mame.net:
--- Quote ---Those of us who work on MAME are interested in preserving the understanding of how this hardware works. The fact that there is a cottage industry for hobbyists built up around it isn't a big deal. The fact that it is expanding into a large marketplace with a large amount of copyright infringement and abuse is hugely concerning. It is important to distance MAME as far away from that as possible, because it is only going to hurt us in the long run.
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So, at best, we're "not a big deal" to them, and at worst we're "infringers and abusers" that are of concern to them. Hence my statement that "they don't care about our community" (i.e., we're not a big deal to them), and "they don't like our community" (we're abusers they're concened about).
I would love to be wrong, but they have stated the goals of their project and their "MAME isn't for playing games" stand numerous times. This is not exactly a big suprise.
See Mame.Net Forum Post for the full post.
Chris:
--- Quote from: Chris on June 03, 2005, 10:12:45 am ---I would love to be wrong, but they have stated the goals of their project and their "MAME isn't for playing games" stand numerous times.
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Nannuu:
--- Quote from: AlanS17 on June 02, 2005, 03:55:20 pm ---
I think the devs owe nothing. They could just as easily pack it up and call it quits, and they have every right to do so. We don't have much room to complain here.
If your hobby is based on someone else's hand-outs, then this is what you have to put up with. Don't bite the hand that feeds you. Beggars can't be choosers.
Is it annoying? Probably. Is it bad? Maybe a little. Do we have the right to complain? Not at all.
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I'm with Alan here.
quarterback:
--- Quote from: Chris on June 03, 2005, 10:15:16 am ---
--- Quote from: Chris on June 03, 2005, 10:12:45 am ---I would love to be wrong, but they have stated the goals of their project and their "MAME isn't for playing games" stand numerous times.
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Haze:
--- Quote from: Dexter on June 03, 2005, 10:01:24 am ---
--- Quote from: Chris on June 03, 2005, 09:41:12 am ---No, we don't. They want to document games; we want to play them in an arcade style environment. They don't care about our community; they don't even like our community, because it makes them look bad.
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Nice of you to speak on their behalf, but I think I'll wait to hear a mamedevs opinion rather than have you give it for them ::)
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Our primary goal is to create a document about how these various pieces of hardware worked. The rest of the statement is a bit of an exageration, we care about the community, board owners etc, that is why we strive to keep the information contained within MAME as accurate as possible (even if we do get moaned at for changing filenames all the time, changing sets by adding extra proms to drivers and such.. but if our primary goal was games why would we do this?). MAME was however never intended to be a replacement for the actual arcade machines being used to generate an income.
Beyond the pretty 'oooh free games' surface people seem to see in MAME is a vastly complex and technical document / piece of software detailing the how a large number of pieces of hardware worked to the best of our ability.
Claims that we wish to start any sort of war with the community are highly exagerated and overblown, simply a set of guidelines have been created in order to avoid problems for all concerned. If you're 'MAME fans' surely you understand the need for us to work in a way which doesn't cause us problems and a part of that is ensuring that MAME is not misrepresented. I do get a general feeling from many people however, that once the games they want to see emulated are emulated they no longer care less about the project, the developers behind the project, or the future of the project, and with the vast majority of the classics now well emulated thats a growing concern. We are only taking these actions because we believe they are in the best interests of the project, and therefore at the end of the day the community and anybody else who follows the project.
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