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MAMEdev is Pulling Auctions!
pointdablame:
--- Quote from: RayB on June 02, 2005, 09:51:45 pm ---I'd like to offer another viewpoint: Associating MAME with keyboards encoders or other such devices is BENEFICIAL to MAME. YES, beneficial.
Let's say Ultimarc makes the decision... they can either promote their keyboard encoder as being compatible with MAME or Vantage. Hmmm, let's say they choose Vantage. OH all of a sudden Vantage is getting a boost in popularity thanks to Ultimarc. Don't shoot a gift horse...
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maybe. But would Ultimarc really have the product line that they have WITHOUT MAME? I don't think so.
KevSteele:
--- Quote from: RayB on June 02, 2005, 09:51:45 pm ---Don't shoot a gift horse...
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Unfortunately, MAMEdev is taking a shotgun approach (i.e., all the horses die).
After seeing Aaron's posts about the situation over on MAME.net, I guess can understand - they don't have the time to individually monitor all the auctions, and if they let some through but not others they're going to be spending all their time arbitrating the mess they've made and dealing with angry vendors. Simpler to just kill all gaming-related MAME auctions.
If I was a programmer, I wouldn't want to spend the rest of my days monitoring eBay auctions daily to enforce the trademark. Killing all MAME auctions is indiscrimiate but fast and efficient.
I'm not happy about the situation, but I can see their point and I'm sure the gaming ecosystem will adapt to this new boulder in the river.
Unfortunately, things like this are the price of popularity: First comes the popularity, then comes the entrepenurs, then come the lawyers...and the circle of corporate life goes on...sigh...
Kevin
Dav:
--- Quote from: RayB on June 02, 2005, 09:51:45 pm ---I'd like to offer another viewpoint: Associating MAME with keyboards encoders or other such devices is BENEFICIAL to MAME. YES, beneficial.
Let's say Ultimarc makes the decision... they can either promote their keyboard encoder as being compatible with MAME or Vantage. Hmmm, let's say they choose Vantage. OH all of a sudden Vantage is getting a boost in popularity thanks to Ultimarc. Don't shoot a gift horse...
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That doesn't make sense. How does mame benefit from more users? They don't charge anything. Some of the devs won't even use their real names so they don't even get any fame. I would argue the opposite, more users cause more problems. The fact that the previous lead developer was actively trying to push users to Raine would indicate that they may feel that way.
Santoro:
I would like to voice my support for the argument that we should all just shut up and be really thankful that the MAMEdevs continue to do all of this free work that, in the end, brings much benefit to our community.
Even if we disagree with thier wishes (and I do) we ought to respect them.
It isn't analagous to Ford because Ford is for-profit. The devs to what they do for preserving the games. It's a buttload of work, and for us to second guess anything they do is, IMHO, rather ballsy.
Howard_Casto:
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--- Quote from: KevSteele on June 02, 2005, 02:18:00 pm ---But pulling an auction with no warning just because someone says "Encoder for MAME" or "MAME cabinet" is over the line, IMHO.
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I agree that there seems to be some overreaching here as far at any use of the word MAME at all, but I would NOT put the phrases "MAME cabinet" and "Encoder for MAME" (or more specifically "compatible with MAME") in the same category.
"MAME cabinet" implies something that "compatible with MAME(tm)" (or "Encoder for MAME") does not. Which is why (I presume) they will allow you to say "compatible with MAME(tm)" but you are not allowed to just haphazardly include the word "MAME" in your acution title.
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