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What joystick to use? Again...
KenToad:
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--- Quote ---It looks like there is software that comes with the 49-way that you can load on your pc that will allow you to change the setup functions of the 49-way joystick to be a 4-way or an 8-way or what ever you want, does this actually work in the games running through MAME?
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To date I haven't heard of direct mame or front-end support. I would expect front end support for this to come very soon though.
Some people have setup their own batch files to esentially do what the front end support will do.
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Software doesn't need to support it to function. I'm not following what you're saying about frontend support there, Floyd. Otherwise, as I understand it, the software support that RandyT implemented in the second run of GP Wiz 49's was just to make it as simple and clean as possible, not to mention versatile, to switch modes. Mame or any other software just accepts the inputs that they have been coded to accept. If you set the GP Wiz 49 to be restricted to diagonal inputs only and play Ikari Warriors, your man will only move in the diagonal directions, since the joystick encoder is only giving the signals: Up+Right, Down+Right, Down+Left, Up+Left.
Hope that helps clear up the confusion.
Cheers,
KenToad
Tiger-Heli:
You're missing several key points, but you're getting there . . .
--- Quote from: maxxonline on May 26, 2005, 12:38:54 pm ---Ok so I was re-reading this post and thought of something else, if the 49-way sticks are good and you want to use 2 sticks or 4 sticks depending on your setup (I would like 4) then each stick has to have a GP-Wiz49 MAX 49-Way Joystick USB Interface from www.groovygamegear.com
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Every 49-way stick that you want to use needs it's own GP-Wiz49 interface, but that also gives you 23 buttons each. So you get 46 buttons with 2 sticks, or 92 buttons with 4. As I think Hoagie one said, you don't really need super good sticks for P3 and P4 for TMNT or Simpsons or the other handful of 4-Player games, so you could use Supers for these and get by with two 49-ways.
--- Quote ---That equals 4, 49-way joysticks PLUS 4, GP-Wiz49 boards all running to USB ports (taking up 4 USB ports) so I guess you would need a USB HUB for this?
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Maybe, maybe not - most mobos have 2 rear ports and probably 4 more ports on headers. I USB Hub should work, but wouldn't be the ideal solution.
--- Quote ---Has anyone done this setup?
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Someone (IntruderAlert ?) did, but I'm not sure who.
--- Quote ---It looks like there is software that comes with the 49-way that you can load on your pc that will allow you to change the setup functions of the 49-way joystick to be a 4-way or an 8-way or what ever you want, does this actually work in the games running through MAME?
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This should confuse you more, given Fl0yd's post. Yes - the software works. Not just in MAME, but in ANY PC program. You do have to launch the software and change the modes through software before the sticks will change modes.
There are efforts underway to set it up so the front-end parses controls.ini or MAME and finds out what mode the game requires and automatically switches the stick (what Fl0yd mentioned), but it is still a WIP.
--- Quote ---Essentially what I am wanting to do is have a 4 player panel with 4 really good joysticks and then 1 dedicated 4 way that I don
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maxxonline:
Also when you say "throw" of the joystick I didn't really grasp that concept so what I did was last night I went to Gamestop and Fry's electronics to pick up the Pelican Real Arcade stick (39.99) and a Soyo KiKy Playstation 2 to USB adapter (9.99) in order to test how a joystick feels in MAME (which I couldn
Tiger-Heli:
--- Quote from: maxxonline on May 26, 2005, 01:00:32 pm ---Also when you say "throw" of the joystick I didn't really grasp that concept . . .
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Throw refers to how far the stick moves from the center point to the stop. A short-throw stick might be 1/4-inch, while a long throw might be almost an inch. From a not-yet-finished web page:
Amount of stick travel - This is how far the joystick can be moved from center. With a well constructed joystick, there is an advantage to a joystick with short travel. Consider the following - in PacMan, a common move is to head into the center tunnel, fake right-left-right a few times to slow the PacMan down, and then proceed back out. Obviously if the stick has less travel, moves like this are much easier to accomplish. Is there a downside to short travel? Well, yes. Let's say as I move the stick fully right, I accidentally move it down about 10 mm. If the stick has a lot of travel, I might not even activate the down-right diagonal. If it has very little travel, I might be basically fully down instead of right at all. So shorter travel has less "margin for error" and requires more precision (stiffer springs) and more accurate positioning of the joystick during gameplay.
--- Quote ---Is this because of the cheap stick? or is this what can be expected?
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My guess is the cheap stick, but I don't play fighters.
--- Quote ---Man that's a lot of typing, sorry for all the information and questions I feel like I write a mini novel every time I post ;D
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Now you know how I feel.
--- Quote ---Maybe I should take up that hobby instead.. hehe naa! it wouldn
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KenToad:
--- Quote from: maxxonline on May 26, 2005, 01:00:32 pm ---Also when you say "throw" of the joystick I didn't really grasp that concept so what I did was last night I went to Gamestop and Fry's electronics to pick up the Pelican Real Arcade stick (39.99) and a Soyo KiKy Playstation 2 to USB adapter (9.99) in order to test how a joystick feels in MAME (which I couldn
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