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Tiger-Heli:

--- Quote from: jer2665 on April 02, 2005, 02:26:50 pm ---Yeah, I've been intrigued by these 49 way, but i'm not sure how they are for fighting games, clsoe as I can tell i've heard that p360's are best for fighting game,s but how about 2 49 ways for p3&p4?  that was i can use them for 2,4,8,49 way games? and use it for some 8 way games if i really like them.  i could go with that, the gp-qiz49 and 1 ipac. 

Sound decent?

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Well, you'd be talking about two GP-Wiz49's and two 49-ways, but it should work well.  The other thing to consider is how your CP is laid out - i.e. if you go

3   1   2   4

So player 1 and 2 are centered for fighters, than a lot of the classics (PacMan, Galaga, Donkey Kong) that used a single 4-way will feel awkward to play from the side of the CP.

jer2665:
ahh, i didn't realize they needed a gpwiz each, but that'll work, it'll eliminate the need for the extra ipac.  i do plan on have 3124, and it will be a little awkward being to the size, but as primarily will be regular 8 way games, i think i'll put up with playing them from the side when I do. 

boy am i glad i started posting questions instead of just going forward.  so now my plan is this...

p1&p2:
p360
7 buttons

p3&p4:
Midway 49 way joysticks from ggg.com
4 buttons

4 admin buttons
4 coin buttons
4 player start buttons
1 spinner
1 trackball
9 buttons (all to same input so i can use spinner or trackball with buttons on left or right.

ex.  O O O [ tb ] O O O [sp ] O O O

unless the 9 buttons seems stupid and maybe i'll never use the last 3 let me know input. 


Tiger-Heli:

--- Quote from: jer2665 on April 02, 2005, 03:18:44 pm ---9 buttons (all to same input so i can use spinner or trackball with buttons on left or right.
ex.  O O O [ tb ] O O O [sp ] O O O
unless the 9 buttons seems stupid and maybe i'll never use the last 3 let me know input. 

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Personally, I would just use P1 buttons 1-3 with the spinner or trackball, but it's your call

Toonces:

--- Quote from: Tiger-Heli on April 02, 2005, 09:27:22 am ---
--- Quote from: jer2665 on April 02, 2005, 08:47:00 am ---are there any favored 4/8 way switchable joysticks?  primarily my time will be spent on fighters and other 8 way games, with the occasional 4 way, and occasional 4 player, so i didn't wanna put the money and space into a dedicated 4 way.  How about the omni stick? or any other favorite 4/8 way joysticks anyone has?

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I think you'll find that the money for a dedicated 4-way ($20 for a reunion), ($13 for a J-Stick) or Omni-Stick, will be less expensive than your other options.  Space is something you'll have to decide for yourself how to work around.

As far as a favored 4/8 way switchable - that's what this thread is about (well largely).

The top panel switchable ones are the T-Sticks and Prodigies - both have a similar short throw (from what I can tell), but T-Sticks have much stiffer springs (switches?).  Omni-Sticks are the same as the Prodigies without the top panel switches.  I think either would feel awkward compared to a P360.

J-Sticks are supposed to have the same throw as a Happ Super, but very light springs.  Could be okay, if you don't mind reaching below the CP to change modes, and if the spring feel wouldn't bother you.

E-sticks are another similar option, but really ugly base, IMNSHO.

--- Quote ---possibly a 49 way?

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49-ways are currently DA BOMB, if you can get around the price point.

Similar throw to a Happ Super, Rubber centering grommet like the old Wico leafs, excellent control in 49-way games (Sinistar, Arch Rivals, PigSkin, Blaster), excellent 8-way play, 4-way play, rotated 4-way play (Q-bert, congo-bongo), 2-way vertical or horizontal play.

Only real drawback is the lack of true restriction in 2-way, 4-way modes, and the price (and maybe having to switch modes manually instead of through software, but that's true of any other stick as well).

RandyT did a bang-up job getting the GP-Wiz49 Eco interface under $20 and the Sticks for $33.

I would really like to add these on my panel or at least try them, but I have a hard time justifying more than the price of a HotRod SE for two joysticks and interfaces, but if you've got the green . . .



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Actually, you can keep the price down by going for some of the Midway sticks on eBay. I got my first one for $12 + shipping and the second one was an auction for a 2 of them that I won for $26+shipping. So now I have a spare. Considering it was $104 for 2 t-stick+ with balltops and light switches the 49 way solution with 2 solder versions and 2 eBay sticks at a total cost of about $80 is pretty damn good.

With custom joysticks like this you're not building a Hot Rod panel  :)

The one thing you don't get with using midway sticks is the balltop (if that's what you are wanting). Yet :) If Specialty Plastics will make Balltops for the Midway version then you'd be looking at probably another $32.50 for a pair and you'd have old school balltops and more modes than you can get with anything else and still in the same price range as other solutions.

But in the end, feel is everything. I don't want to discourage anyone from buying Andy's t-stick+. They are a solid product and if you like a short throw stick they're great. They have been the absolute best looking stick on my Japanese sitdown cab and looked like they were original equipment.

jer2665:
i just threw this together in a mac program omnigraffle, the panel itself is correctly sized, but a lot of the other stuff isn't, but it shouldn't be that far off that this'd be a problem.

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