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Button Layout - Ergonomic vs Standard
Mojo2000:
Sega's Saturn Virtual Stick lives on in PC-USB, Xbox and PS2 forms. You will notice how the buttons are not in straight planes. Didn't somebody here say that the industry knows what's best for the players? :P
http://www.lik-sang.com/image.php?category=54&products_id=6336&img=pc-virtua-stick&show=5
The thing I disagree with is the use of convex buttons. Now THAT I absolutely won't stand for.
Will:
My test cp features a ergonomic layout custom made for me and it SUCKS.In my street fighter set up of six buttons I decided to try moving the middle button(s) a little bit up maybe about a quarter inch.I thought that since my middle finger is obvious a little longer if I had it raised just a smidge above the other buttons in would be more comfortable.....It's not,it doesn't work well in games and is a bit unorthodox.For instance your playing super mario bros and your holding down the run button and you reach for jump button with your middle finger I had a tendency to reach for a button that was right next to it that wasn't there.So needless to say my efforts to try something different failed but I'm glad I tried it.I wont have to wonder about it,but yes the military straight line is the way for me.
pmc:
This thread is making me change my mind a bit.
I don't like the ergo look at all (middle buttons shifted up but the others straight). And reports seem to indicate that playability suffers. But it seems to me that straight buttons that are slightly inclined up and to the right works the same way as straight and horizontal ("military" as someone said) except that you have to bend your elbow out a little bit to line up your fingers.
I did this intentionally to get a 1-2-4-5 button arrangement that approximates the diamond pattern on a Playstation or Dreamcast while still preserving a 1-2-3-4-5-6 Street Fighter layout.
Seems that this is all folly. The diamond isn't really there since the angle cannot be extreme enough. It's more of a rhombus (remembering my geometry). All you get is sacrificed elbow room.
But I still like the angled look better than straight. Maybe just angle them a little just for looks...
Nocturnaloner:
This is like one of those "less filling!" "tastes great!" commercials. It could go on forever, with no real answer. The only thing to do is build a test panel (or two!) and figure it out for yourself. I recommend using a 'sandwich' of 2 pieces 1/4" hardboard with 4 or 5 inch lengths of 2x4 in between at the corners. Drill all the holes you want, wire it up, and check it out. No one is ever going to logically explain away what feels right for someone else.
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