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New Product: 49-Way USB Interface - The GP-Wiz49 with DRS Technology (TM)

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Kremmit:

--- Quote from: RandyT on March 05, 2005, 09:49:19 pm ---I received the Williams 49-way from Kremmit (thanks again) and am looking through the parts bin for a connector.  The pins and spacing are different than the Midway stick, so the floppy connector trick won't work with this one.  I don't know whether this has been brought up in the past, but it looks like a good source for connectors for this beast would be a dead AT power supply.  Think motherboard power connectors......

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Looks like Lilwolf beat you to the AT power connector trick:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,20716.0.html

paigeoliver:
The Williams' sticks do the actual 49-way action perfectly with the SJC, so I assume they will also do this perfectly with the new encoder as well.

SirPoonga:

--- Quote from: Hoagie_one on March 06, 2005, 07:45:32 pm ---while we are adding features, why not add a 12 way mode so we can play guerilla war\ikari\etc etc

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What mahuti said.

People get confused by this terminology.

2way, 4way, 8way means the directions the joystick can only have 4 or 8 directions.  up/down/left/right for 4way, include diagonals for 8way.

12 position rotory josystick is a mechanical rotory joy that has 12 "clicks" in order to rotate the joystick 360 degrees.  They are 8way joysticks that can rotate.  There'd 12 rotated positions.  In fact, optical rotories are just a 8way joystick ontop of a spinner.
It's actually 12 position, not 12 way.  Most people will call the 12 position rotory a mechanical rotory, and the optical verion optical rotory.

49way joys are just as described here, there's a grid of optics that detects where the joystick was.  It was a cheap simple way to have psuedo low resolution analog type joystick.  For games like Arch Rivals you trigger the first optics while pushing left your character will walk, the next optic your character will jog, the 3rd optic your character will run.

Grasshopper:
Getting back to the issue of mode switching through software, I've been thinking about this a bit more and I don't think it would be essential to upload data to the device.

If I understand correctly Raw49 mode simply takes the X/Y values of the joystick and scales them up to the number of bits that HID devices use to represent analogue values (I might be simplifying a bit).

It should be possible to write a simple driver that would reverse this process to get back to the original grid position and then convert that position through software to one of the seven modes available. If writing a Windows (or Linux?) driver is too much work (I'm assuming DOS is out of the question as this is a USB device) then I'm sure someone here could come up with a hacked version of MAME that did the same thing.

I apologise if someone else here has already come up with this idea, but this thread is getting too long to read!

One further thing, someone suggested earlier in the thread that the 49 way sticks have a square restrictor plate. Can someone confirm whether this is true? This bothers me a bit because I think this idea will only work if the 49 way joysticks have circular restrictor plates.

NoOne=NBA=:

--- Quote from: Grasshopper on March 07, 2005, 02:18:22 pm ---Getting back to the issue of mode switching through software, I've been thinking about this a bit more and I don't think it would be essential to upload data to the device.
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You're not really uploading data.
You are changing the way the device operates.


--- Quote ---It should be possible to write a simple driver that would reverse this process to get back to the original grid position and then convert that position through software to one of the seven modes available.
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Yes, but in doing so, the device itself is no longer doing the conversions externally.
This means that the computer now has to interpret EVERY command it is given.
The nice thing about this device is that it is capable of outputting DIGITAL signals.
Having a program that would do a post input D-A conversion, would completely bypass this system.

I think that any time spent on a "driver" for this would be better spent rigging external programming software, that would trigger the device to switch modes.
This would require only ONE input from the software, and wouldn't require the computer to perform any conversions DURING the game.


--- Quote ---One further thing, someone suggested earlier in the thread that the 49 way sticks have a square restrictor plate. Can someone confirm whether this is true?
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The Happ's sticks are rubber grommet/round restrictor.

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