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Discussion: Ultracade and the Mame Trademark
Thenasty:
I also think that Ultracade, they are not popular to todays youth. I saw one in Sportworld and a month later, its taken out.
scatter:
Just to answer s couple of q's I've seen since my last post. First, I'm an arcade operator (it's why I would even have an ultracade) The long and short of it is none of the arcade ops like the ultracade *at all* there is almost no feature that any one of us likes. From game selection to the herky jerky action of menu selection. So there's a bit of background.
As to JOS. I wrote the guy a while back to request a copy of the system and he said it was not available for any amount. *shrug* So whatever. As I said the info on the HD was easily readable by putting in a PC and viewing on a byte level with a hex editor. I no longer have the system but it would seem that we forgot two cd's when we shipped it out (seriously we just forgot about them) and they still reside in my desk here. They both have crappy inkjet labels that say ultracade system installation (one is v3.12 and one is v3.23) but it would seem that the HD needs to be initialized because it goes nowhere when you boot the CD. It just says "JoshuaOS Loading"
I've long thought there must be MAME code in it but a cursory inspection of the files doesn't show any tale-tale signs. Also it is a fact that UC used to have all the NAMCO games in them on a don't ask don't tell policy until DF got a little note from NAMCO sometime last summer ('04) which he sent out to the Ops.
Just a case of a very very black pot calling all the kettles black to me.
b
P.S. I love the fact that the spell checker suggests Utlrasuede for Ultracade...
mr.Curmudgeon:
--- Quote from: scatter on March 04, 2005, 11:13:24 am ---I no longer have the system but it would seem that we forgot two cd's when we shipped it out (seriously we just forgot about them) and they still reside in my desk here.
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What are the legalities of "examining" the OS for the inclusion of M.A.M.E. code? Reverse engineering the OS in order to distribute and/or alter it is obviously not allowed. But, couldn't an individual, someone on the M.A.M.E. development team, peek at the code (legally) in order to see if they spot any of their own code? Isn't there enough reason for suspicion?
I know that there was a similar situation with CherryOS (Mac emu software), when they were accused of building on top of the free open-sourced, PearPC mac emu.
It might be an issue of "just cause" since, to quote the linked article, "Sebastian Ballas, PearPC's lead developer, said a screenshot of CherryOS shows a variable named "SPIRO MULTIMAX 3000," a nonsensical term Ballas claims to have invented for use in PearPC."
I have NO SYMPATHY whatsoever for mr. Foley, as the sad bastard has brought this on himself. We *need* to figure out how to make absolutely sure he isn't using M.A.M.E code. Because how horribly ironic would it be, were he to continue destroying the community using the very software that was used to create it in the first place.
mr.C
Patent Doc:
--- Quote ---The way I read it you are both not quite right.
The title of the page answers what it is about
"Rulemaking on Exemptions from Prohibition on Circumvention of Technological Measures that Control Access to Copyrighted Works"
This means breaking the security on obsolete technology is legal.
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quarterback:
--- Quote from: scatter on March 04, 2005, 11:13:24 am ---As to JOS. I wrote the guy a while back to request a copy of the system and he said it was not available for any amount. *shrug* So whatever.
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That's just wierd, considering the website offers it up. That is, unless JoshuaOS is basically ONLY used by Ultracade. The JOS people are only 66 miles from Unltracade central, so who knows the real story.
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